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Main fuse blows. Have disconnected switches: neutral, clutch, ignition, emergency, & starter. Also positive battery cable from starter solenoid and the connector with 3 white wires from the alternator. The voltage regulator is all that remains connected to the battery. The fuse still blows. A diode test indicates the regulator is OK. But a circuit test from the red wire contact blade through the aluminum housing indicates a dead short thru the regulator. I have tried 2 other salvage regulators with the same result. What is wrong and how do I fix it? Thanks

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Check the the starter relay, it is sending power up and out of the clutch switch so engaging that creates the short, and the neutral switch runs off the same diode, making that short too. By pass the relay and see if that helps. ----------- Disconnect the reg/rec and see if the fuse blows.unplug the rectifier and see if the fuse is still blowing. ------------- The white wires from the stator coil to RR can be in any order.

I am thinking you crossed the + and - wires leading to the battery.May be any of the wire got reversed or getting ;loose.
---------------- If the main fuse only blows after the R/R is connected. I will double check the R/R, the + & - wires connection.If you cant make sure which is the + on the RR.You can test it by hooking up the 3 white wires, starting the bike, then testing the 2 leftover prongs V DC, the one with voltage coming out will be the +, leaving the other obviously the neutral. -----------

Try unplugging the rectifier, and turning on the key. If it don't blow the fuse then the rectifier may be bad. --------

Click this link below for more details:--

http://technoanswers.blogspot.com/2011/07/main-fuse-blows-on-yamaha-motorcycle.html

----------- This will help.Thanks.Helpmech.

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Trouble-shooting your Isuzu starter..

Basic operation of a starter:
Your engine's starter motor is an electrical motor that is used to rotate the engine in order to get it to fire up. This motor draws a large amont of current from the battery (in the order of 70 Amps and up). In order to supply power to the starter a solenoid is used, it acts as a switch between the battery and the starter motor. This solenoid also engages the starter gear with the engine's flywheel and disengages it once the engine is started. Because the circuit for the solenoid also draws a heavy current a further relay is needed to control it.
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General trouble shooting.
Turn the ignition off.
1/ First you need to check that the fuses are intact.
Keep the ignition off. Place the vehicle in Neutral. Chock the wheels and engage the parking brake.
2/ To prove the starter motor, connect power from the battery positive to the cable (x). This must be done with jumper cables. Touch the jumper cable to the connector on the back of the solenoid where cable (x) connects. Take care not to short circuit the jumper cable to the engine or vehicle body. It can be a tight fit and might not always be possible. If you hear the starter motor spin then it is working along with the engine earth cable. If not, connect the negative lead of the jumper cable between the battery and the starter motor body or any other bare piece of metal on the engine and put the positive lead on cable (x) again. If the starter motor does not spin it needs to come out for repair/replacement. If it spins check both the battery earth cable and engine earth cable and repair where nescasary.
3/ Once the starter motor has been proved move on to the solenoid. Remove the thin wire from the solenoid. Using a small piece of wire, connect battery positive to the connector where you just took off the wire. The solenoid should kick in and the starter motor will turn the engine. If the solenoid does not kick in, remove the starter for repair/replacement of the solenoid. If the solenoid kicks in then replace the starter relay.

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The following is specifically for Isuzu Trooper and Rodeo :
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  • iii : Starter solenoid
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  • vii : Engine earth cable
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  • B2 : B2 on ignition sitch
  • ST : ST on ignition switch
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