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Anonymous Posted on May 21, 2010

Runs very lean. Floats are set with the needle...

Runs very lean. Floats are set with the needle spring about half compressed to get the proper float level. I need a measurement with float just touching the needle spring. 1982 Yamaha XJ650J

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Terry Rodgers Jr.

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  • Posted on Nov 16, 2008

SOURCE: having problems with carburtor on 87 fz 600 yamaha

YOU SHOULD HAVE A COMMON FEED & 2 RETURNS(1 FROM EACH CARB)THESE LINES DRY OUT OVER THE YEARS & KEEP THERE SHAPE YOU SHOULD BE ABLE TO FIGURE THIS OUT FROM THE SHAPE THEY HAVE RETAINED(THEY WILL ONLY GO ON WAY ACCORDING TO THE SHAPE OF THE LINE.HOPE THIS HELPS.THANX FOR USING FIX-YA.PLEASE POST ON ALL REPLYS.

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Roscoe007

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  • Posted on Mar 27, 2009

SOURCE: 1998 yz 125 acts as if it runs out of fuel while

If your carb is clean ..Sounds like you should look at your kill switch ...could be loose wire inside, grounding itself out ...hope this helps! other then that could be starving for fuel (carb adjust)

tbrat44

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  • Posted on May 07, 2009

SOURCE: Need to set floats on an xj 700

with the float bowl off and holding the carb level, adjust the float where it is level and the jet is up enough to seal. float should be set then.

Anonymous

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  • Posted on May 30, 2009

SOURCE: flaot setting for 81 yamaha 650 maxim (4 ea.)

# 1carb left 0.04+or-0.04 inches mm 1.0+or-1.0 # 2 carb right 0.08+or-0.04 2.0+or-1.0 hope this gets you there

ROB

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  • Posted on Jul 17, 2009

SOURCE: I have a British manual on this bike and want to

there are free online conversion lists for everything
http://www.worldwidemetric.com/metcal.htm

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After your carb is clean you can now set your float level. The picture below will allow you to become familiar with the parts that are responsible for maintaining the correct float level in your carb. There are four basic parts, the floats themselves (part of the float assembly), the float assembly tang, the fuel inlet needle valve, and the fuel inlet valve seat.

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(Float assembly pivot pin not shown.)


It is always a good idea to remove the float assembly pivot pin (already shown removed) and extract the float assembly and the fuel inlet needle. The fuel inlet needle is a wearable part and over time can deteriorate. A worn fuel inlet needle can contribute to an irregular float level. Most fuel inlet needles consist of an internal spring loaded bumper (which contacts the float assembly tang) and a plastic or Viton (rubber) tip. Inspect the fuel inlet needle tip for wear and/or damage. To give you an idea, Eric Gorr recommends replacing the fuel inlet needle/seat assembly every two years. I've found that the average cost is around $15 for both parts.

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(Fuel inlet needle shown with Viton (rubber) tip. The Viton is used to isolate the fuel inlet needle from vibration and to create a better seal against the fuel inlet valve seat.)

Now that you've made sure you aren't going to have any issues from worn parts you can reinstall your needle, float assembly and float assembly pivot pin and continue on to set your float level. The float level measurement is taken from the top of the floats (when the carb is positioned upside down) to the gasket surface of the float bowl as illustrated in the next picture. You can use an open-end wrench (sized per your spec), a small metric ruler, or a float level gauge. The tolerance for your float level is usually around +/- 0.50mm.

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When setting the float level be aware that the spring loaded bumper on the fuel inlet needle valve may have a tendency to compress under the weight of the float assembly which will skew your measurement. Before you obtain your measurement you'll need to make sure that the float assembly tang just barely makes contact with the spring-loaded bumper. Sometimes it is easier to hold the carb body at a 45-degree angle to avoid compressing the spring in the fuel inlet needle.

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If you find that your measurement does not match your float level spec then you can carefully bend the float assembly tang to achieve your desired measurement. Be sure to recheck your work, and if you feel confident that your float level is spot on then you can reinstall your carb and get back to riding.
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When setting the float level be aware that the spring loaded bumper on the fuel inlet needle valve may have a tendency to compress under the weight of the float assembly which will skew your measurement. Before you obtain your measurement you'll need to make sure that the float assembly tang just barely makes contact with the spring-loaded bumper. Sometimes it is easier to hold the carb body at a 45-degree angle to avoid compressing the spring in the fuel inlet needle.

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