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Shaft coming out of transmission that clutch basket slide upon..it this suppose to free wheel while transmission is in gear...please help this is on a big dog k-9 motorcycle..6 speed baker transmission

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Without clutch plates installed. The clutch basket inner is directly connected to the tranny input shaft- if you turn the inner clutch basket while in gear it should drive the rear wheel. The outer basket should spin freely regardless of gear selection and have no affect on the tranny.
The input shaft of the tranny itself ( the shaft the clutch basket slides on) should not free wheel when in gear.

  • Anonymous May 06, 2012

    I got a collar behind clutch basket that keeps walking out on the shaft and out of its seal. it seems the collar is half an inch too short. anybody ever heard of this?

  • Anonymous May 06, 2012

    2000 Gecko. the collar behind the clutch basket keeps walking out on the trans shaft. when it does this, it comes out past the seal and pours oil. by my measurements, the collar is half an inch too short. Ever heard of this????

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