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25 cc weedeater..new carb, new ring and piston, new gaskets, good compression..won't start. when removing plug and looking into cylinder after priming and attempting to start there doesn't appear to have any fuel in the cylinder. plug is new.. other than running over it with a D9 tractor is there any hope..A.T.

  • Alan Fowlkes
    Alan Fowlkes Oct 28, 2013

    it also has plenty of spark...A.T.

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Check you have a spark, connect a spare plug and hold it to an earth, crank the engine and watch for a spark. If not check your ignition circuit. If a good strong spark proceed:
Check fuel supply to carburettor - make sure there are no transit plugs that have not been removed. Easiest way is to disconnect the supply hose - no naked lights!!!!
If that\'s OK remove the carburettor float chamber and check that fuel is reaching the carburettor. If the float chamber is dry, check the float valve assembly. There\'s not usually much to small engine carburettors so if the fuels getting to the carb it may be a blocked jet or just very badly adjusted. There is also the possibility that the carb is faulty (yes I know it\'s new but ...!).
If fuel and spark is OK then it could be the spark timing - it should be OK unless you\'ve stripped the engine. On some engine\'s it is possible to set the spark 180 degrees out so that it sparks on the exhaust stroke - just to confuse things some engines spark on both exhaust & compression.
Good Luck!

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SOURCE: Snapper SS312 weed eater. Cranks when primed but won't run

I am sorry to say this, but the compression for that type of engine should be atleast 120 psi. Remove the muffler and look at the cylinder, it is scarred beyond repair.

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SOURCE: 323L Husqvarna trimmer

This sounds like the carb needs to be adjusted like it is letting to much fuel into the cylinder. There is supposed to be fuel and air mixture in the cylinder to make it fire. If there is to much fuel what will happen is that it will just build up in there and the air wont get hot enough as it compresses to start the engine.

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SOURCE: Gas/oil mixture for my Homelite Trimlite weedeater 25 cc

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Anonymous

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  • Posted on Jul 14, 2009

SOURCE: 25cc weed eater, will only idle

double check your carb as it should have a screw for the fuel mixture. some carbs have a plastic piece over them that only lets you move the screws so far if you need more extreme adjustment they pull out about a 1/8th of a inch then you can turn in then push it back in, same principals as making a flame on a bic lighter bigger, if you cant find it take some pics of your carb and email them to me @ [email protected] and i will point them out

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