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Anonymous Posted on Apr 14, 2009

02 crf450r starts up fine.... let choke off then

Cold starts up fine usually about 2 or 3 kicks.... let choke off then give about 1/4 throttle then pops and stalls.... or when put in gear stalls. Can't seem to figure this out, too rich??

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I have a crf 250 R and i have learned multiple things about these bikes like if you leave it running and not riding it for about ten min. it will over heat. they love race gas 113 octane,and alot more. but your prob sounds strange. i know if you hold the hot start while its runing it pops that could be a problem. or it could be you are not cleaning the bike out i would need to know more about this to give a definate answer but try going over the bike. Look at key parts like the
carb
air cleaner
fuel line
any thing that is nesessary for the bike to run.

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