Ccmrotax604startergear is not turning over motor

If you get a clicking sound, then it is either your starter solenoid or the battery is low. If you simply get nothing, then it is wiring. Use jumper cables and and jump from an external battery. Go "-" to frame and "+" to the battery side of the solenoid. Push the starter button. It should click and send power to the starter. If it doesn't click then the problem lies with the wiring between the solenoid and starter button, or the solenoid itself. If the solenoid did click but the motor didn't turn over, put your "+" jumper cable directly on the starter motor's external contact. If the motor turns over, your problem is your solenoid. If the starter motor refuses to turn over, then your problem is the starter motor.

Likely either the starter or solenoid. Solenoid is a combination of relay and actuator, pushing the starter's gear into engagement with your flywheel.

Can the motor be turned by a socket on the Harmonic balancer bolt? If it can I would say itis a faulty starter motor. You could also remove the starter, put it in a vice & hook jumper leads to it to test it but if the motor turns by hand its safe to say the starter is ********

G'day. First you need to confirm then, is it the starter motor at fault or the engines refusal to turn over.
I suggest confirm your engine turns over by hand.Use a socket/spanner on crank end or if not so accessable try remove spark plugs,shift into top gear & try turn over the engine using the rear wheel.Once you have proven that the engine turns over(is not seized)then it is logically your starter motor, as you by-passed your starter circuit when you shorted the solinoid with your screwdriver & the starter motor didn't turn.So, next remove your starter motor & test it on the bench/floor.Secure the starter motor.In a vice is best but on the floor with your foot firmlly on it will do. Using jumper leads conect it to your battery.Negative to the body of the starter motor.Now touch the posative to the starter motor terminal & see if it works- It shouldn't. Now you know your starter motor is the problem.Replace or repair,re-test,re-fit & you should be OK. Please let me know if you have any other problems with this & I'm happy to help.
Regards Andrew Porrelli

Stator that produces power - doesn't turn, the rotor turns with the cranckshaft around the stator.

Starter that turns the motor over - has a solenoid .
First check that the battery is fully charged and the cables are tight then check the fuse in the top of the solenoid, if there isn't one then check the inline fuse that goes to the solenoid. replace if bad. start it.
Second if the fuse is good , jump the solenoid with a screwdriver or two and see if the starter turns over. if it does then your solenoid is bad. replace the solenoid. start it
if it doesn't turn over, remove the starter and have it bench tested, if it is bad, replace starter.

If the starter is good then.......

Put the bike in 5th gear and try to push it and see if the motor turns over.
If it does, try to start it again with the starter. i had an old Goldwing that was sitting and the starter couldn't turn the motor over until i broke the motor free.

if you cant break the motor free, its seized.

I beleive that its either the fuse or solenoid.

starter switch maybe loose

Hi and welcome to FixYa,

Initially, is there an alarm/immobilizer? If yes is it active/enabled?

Offhand, by "...wont start..." do you mean starter motor will not spin or engine turns but will not fire?

Starter motor will not turn:

• press start button, check for +12 on green/black wire from starter switch to starter relay;
• if there is, is there a clicking sound?
• if there is a clicking sound, short temporarily the 2 big terminals of the starter relay;
• if starter motor turns, starter relay faulty;
• if not, starter motor needs looking into particularly the carbon brushes and the commutator segments.

Starter motor turns but no spark:

• check/replace sparkplug;
• check pulsating voltage on green/white wire going to ignition coil coming from the ignition control unit;
• check pulsating low AC voltage on green wire going to ignition control unit coming from the pulse generator coil;
• check presence of IGN +12 leading to the ignition control unit.
  

Starter motor turns, there is spark but motor will not run:

• check automatic choke (blue & white/black wires);
• check fuel quality and quantity delivered to combustion chamber (check sparkplug if wet).

Good luck and thank you for asking FixYa.

Which gears still turn? I've seen cases where at around 15k to 20k the starter motor clutch goes out. Starter turns, transmission gears will still turn. But starter obviously not engaging the motor. Good luck

Hi Jim.

When you turn the key, you should at least hear the starter solenoid click. When you turn the key the ignition switch sends 12 volts to the Starter solenoid ( really just a relay). The Solenoid closes and applies 12 volts (at a high current) to the starter motor to crank the engine. If you have a way to measure voltage, you should get 12 volts at the small terminal on the starter solenoid. The solenoid is mounted on the top of the starter motor.If you get 12 volts but no cranking, the solenoid is not working. If you get 12 volts and the starter doesn't crank the starter is defective. At this [point take a small hammer and tap the starter motor, not hard, just medium. Sometimes this will cause the starter motor to catch next time you turn the key. Best bet is to remove the starter motor (with solenoid attached) and take it to an Auto Zone type store where they can check it out for you. Be dure you disconnect the ground terminal of the battery before you attempt to remove the starter motor.

Hope this helps Good luck loringh PS Please leave a rating for me if appropriate Thks

Nate, I'm not sure what you mean when you say,"I can get it to whine but not turn over. The starter is trying to get it to turn, but I don't think it is getting any gas".

Separate and aprt from not getting any gas is the fact( if I understande you correctly) that the motor is not being cranked by the starter motor. You say "it whines". You are referring to the starter motor, right? the starter motor should not "whine". If this is what's happening by guess is the Bendix spring in the starter motor is broken. The bendix spring is a heavy spring that is mounter on s worm gear in the starter motor. When you go to start the motor by turning the key the starter motor turn and the spring travels down this worm gear and engages tthe geared flywheel and cranks the engine. As soon as the engine starts the flywheel is now turning the bendix spring faster that the starter motor and the spring kicks back to its original position. If the spring is broken it never engages the flywheel and the engine wont crank.
The fact that you say the starter "whines" is what I would expect you to hear if the starter is at fault.

As far as no fuel flow there are 2 ifs: if you have an electric fuel pump, then there is a problem in the fuel flow. If you do not have a electric pump then the fuel pump runs off of the engines motion and since the engine is not cranking, the pump is not pumping and the fuel is not flowing.

Anything else you can add before we conclude that the starter has to come off?

Loringh