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My exhaust emission warning has totally refused to go. took the car to the dealers and they replaced the massairflow sensor. After a day or two the light was back on. the car is a VW Passat 2003 1.8 T

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There may be a variety of errors. For example, nozzles for errors or defects in the catalyst. or even the oxygen sensor errors

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