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1985 mdel diesel lost timing due to tensioner failure would like to set it back correctly

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You might want to check if that engine is an interferance engine first. Most of the car diesels in that era were interferance engine meaning if they jump time or belt breaks, it usually wipes out the valves as they hit the pistons until the crank stops turning.

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Fig 1. Injection pump and camshaft alignment marks - Diesel engine.

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Fig 2. Removing the timing belt holder - Diesel engine.

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1. Disconnect the negative battery cable. Drain the cooling system.

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3. Using a prybar, remove the tension spring from the timing belt tensioner.

When removing the tension spring, avoid using excessive force for the spring may become distorted.

4. Remove the tensioner pulley bolt and the pulley.

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8. Using a new timing belt, install it in the following sequence: crankshaft sprocket, camshaft sprocket and the injection pump sprocket; the slack must be between the injection pump and camshaft sprockets.

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196759.jpg The 5.9L diesel engine accessory drive system (with a/c) consists of :
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196757.jpg The 5.9L diesel engine accessory drive system (without a/c) consists of :
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  4. Power Steering Pump Pulley (4)
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