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The brake pedal goes all the way to the floor. I can feel the ABS working. The master cylinder is full and I can find no leaks. What can be wrong?

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Sounds like youve got air in the system try bleeding it

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BRAKES BLED PEDAL GOES TO FLOOR WHEN STARTED

if a master cylinder is bad and you are sure you have all the air out and no leaks.pedal will go to floor , running or not. if booster is bad it will cause a hard pedal. but if master cylinder is bad it will turn on a brake light on dash if it works. make sure the wheel cylinders are not leaking. I beleive that the master cylinder is bad, or you have a leak somewhere. If the master cylinder is functioning properly, the brake pedal will depress to a certain depth and no further.
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Brake pedal feel (pedal nearly hitting the floor) brake have been bleed and serviced if you press the pedal once they feel chap --- then press them again the brakes feel great the abs is working ok

I would bleed the brakes one more time to make sure, and also ensure that the brake fluid is full. But it sounds like your power booster is giving you trouble. That is the round cylinder that is attached to your master cylinder.
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Does your truck have ABS? If so you may have a bad brake
pressure modulator for the abs. Its the big box by the Master that says Kelsey-Hayes on it. You can pick up the complete unit from a salvage yard at a pretty reasonable price.

I also found this on another site. I know you said that you blead the Master but check this information out. The bleeding of a new Master Cylinder is very important to get it exactly right.
http://www.ehow.com/how_4508156_bench-bleed-master-cylinder-chevy.html
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well, check the brake lines for leakage after adding brake fluid to the full mark. If the brake pedal goes all the way to the floor, it's likely there is a leak somewhere after the master cylinder. If the pedal gets hard after adding fluid, and pumping it several times with the car off, then the master cylinder is still ok.

If air has gotten into the master cylinder, it may have to be bled out on a bench, or using a scanner if that's the way your vehicle is.

Bleeding the Brake System (ABS) Auto Bleed Procedure NOTE: Perform a manual bleeding procedure. If the brake pedal height and firmness results are not achieved, perform the auto bleed procedure below.
NOTE: Perform this procedure when replacing the brake pressure modulator valve or electro-hydraulic control unit.
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  2. Check the master cylinder fluid level often to prevent running the system dry.
  3. Press the brake pedal firmly and run the Scan Tool Automated Bleed Procedure (for Gas engines) once, or the Function Test (for Diesel engines) four times. Make sure to release the brake pedal between each test.
  4. Perform the manual bleed procedure again. This should remove the remaining air from the brake system.
  5. Bleed the system as many times as needed to obtain the appropriate feel of the brake pedal.
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