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I just replaced all timming chains, tensioners and guides on my 98 mercury mountaineer 4.0 v6. There are no timming marks to set the timming with. How do i set the timming ??? PLEASE HELP!!!

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TIMMING IS NOT ADJUSTABLE. IT IS ALL COMPUTER CONTROLED. THE ONLY TIMMING IS THE MARKS ON THE CHAIN AND GEARS.

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There are three special tools for setting the cam timing. if you look at the camshafts you will see a flat surface near the front of each cam, there is a tool that you mount to the head that locks the cam using the flat on all the cams, and a special tool that screws into the crank position sensor hole (remove sensor) that locks the crank right where it needs to be, and the cams where they need to be,,, and you put the keyless gears that have no timing marks what so ever on them on any way you want and torque them down,,,, I made my own tools when I did this the first time, I made them out of wood, you can do it....

I just replaced all timming - just-replaced-all-timming-fbupkc1yzruzvoowpn2htz4h-2-0.gif
this photo shows the cam tool and the part number for it.... it cost $150.00 and two are required, also the crank tool, that's another $150.00

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Chances are pretty good that you can't. The timing is electronically controlled through the on-board OBD2 computer Sorry.

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For the $money$, its well worth getting yourself the tool kit - it will save you hours in the long run. Search eBay for otc-6488 should be US $119 - then sell them again for say $100.

There is also a tool version of the oil tensioner in the kit that screws right in and puts the correct amount of force on the chain + guide, to enable you to do up the cam bolt with the chain and sprocket in the right spot on the cam.


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I will assume you are referring to the timing procedure for a replacement timing belt (4 cyl) or timing chain (V6) With the V6 timing chain you simply line up the timing marks on the two sprockets so that they are pointing directly toward each other, crankshaft sprocket with the mark pointing straight up, camshaft mark straight down. With the 2.3 L 4 cylinder engine, you must first position the crankshaft at TDC, and then position the oil pump and camshaft sprockets with their timing marks to line up with their respective marks on the inner cover. Install the belt and release the spring tensioner to let it adjust itself, tighten the tensioner bolt, and turn the engine over for 2 rotations (always clockwise as viewed from the front, never backwards). Make sure the marks still line up, loosen the tensioner, allow it to retension itself, and tighten the tensioner bolt. If the oil pump sprocket is not timed correctly, the camshaft position sensor signal will be incorrectly timed.
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