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An 09 mountaineer won't start everything comes on lights displays etc but won't crank I've replaced ignition switch battery and terminals

The PATS anti-theft system will not let the starter engage an spin the engine around to start the vehicle if the theft deterrent module does not get correct coded value from the pats key. There is a transponder in the head of the key - when put into the lock cylinder a antenna behind the plastic steering column energizes the transponder which makes it send it's unique code to the computers on the vehicle. You have no clue what you're doing . Take it to a qualified repair shop .

You would need a factory scan tool to check for codes in the computers before just replacing parts. Changing the ignition ? lock & key assemble or the electrical part of ignition switch? If key an lock cylinder the key needs to be programmed into the control modules .

Anti-Theft NOTE: If the instrument cluster or the PCM (or both) is installed, the parameters must be reset in both modules or the vehicle will experience a passive anti-theft system (PATS) no-start. For additional information, refer to Passive Anti-Theft System (PATS) Parameter Reset in this section.
PATS consists of the following components:
  • Anti-theft indicator (located in the autolamp/sunload sensor)
  • Encoded (the key contains a transponder) ignition key
  • PATS transceiver
  • Instrument cluster
  • Powertrain control module (PCM)
PATS uses radio frequency identification technology to deter a drive-away theft. Passive means that it does not require any activity by the user.
The vehicle is equipped with 2 PATS keys. A maximum of 8 PATS keys can be programmed to start the vehicle. If additional PATS keys are desired, refer to Spare Key Programming - Unlimited Key Mode in this section.
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06 ford fusion no dash lights,starter do not engauge

Do you have a professional type scan tool ? Need to check for DTC'S - diagnostic trouble codes in all the vehicle control modules , not just OBD 2 . Instrument cluster not working - PATS - passive anti-theft system won't let the starter engage . No communication between instrument cluster an the PCM - engine computer . Your best bet mite be to take it to a qualified repair shop. Have you check for power an grounds to the instrument cluster ? Do you know how to do that ? Viewing a wiring diagram for the instrument cluster an then using loaded circuit test procedure . Do you know what that is ? Using something that draws a few amps - headlamp . Pull the instrument cluster , look at a wiring diagram free here http://www.bbbind.com/free-tsb/ Enter vehicle info. Year , make , model an engine . Under system click on body & accessories then under subsystem click on instrumentation . Click the search button then the blue link .
Don't know what i'am taking about ? Watch these https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=efKoWifdcag
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The PATS transceiver is located behind the steering column shroud and communicates with the encoded ignition key. During each vehicle start sequence, the PATS transceiver reads the encoded ignition key identification code and sends data to the instrument cluster.
The control functions are contained in the instrument cluster. The instrument cluster carries out all of the PATS functions, such as receiving the identification code from the encoded ignition key, validating the PATS key code and sending an enable message through the controller area network (CAN) to the powertrain control module (PCM). The instrument cluster initiates the key interrogation sequence when the vehicle ignition switch is turned to ON or START. All elements of PATS must be functional before the engine is allowed to start. If any of the components are not working correctly, the vehicle does not start.

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I have a 3--6 Ford Edge and the pats system activated and the car won't start, How do I fix it

Hello Kenneth James Patterson,

Look up the price of PATS keys & Remote FOBs
on eBay (really inexpensive OEM equipment)...
((for future reference)).

PATS is DE-Activated as soon as you put a WORKING
(hopefully original) TRANSPONDER key in the IGNITION.

If you DO NOT have the OTHER KEY... LOCKSMITH.
(my best advice).

Without the actual year of your EDGE i won't even
bother to attempt, chapter & verse...

One working key will get you going...
Two will allow you to add more keys...
None = call a locksmith (get quotes BEFORE contracting).

Dealer + tow service +2 FOBS = 2 new keys...
I have seen run to $600... easy.

Always keep no less than 2 KEYS safe.

Carnac the Magnificent
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What is the power of engine jeep grand cherokee 2001

2001 grand cherokee generally had a 4.0, 242, I6 engine with 196 hp @ 4600 RPM, 230 lb-torque @ 3000 RPM.

The 4.7 Ltr (287 c.i V-8) was available with 235 HP @ 4800 RPM & 295 lb-torque @ 3200 RPM.

Towing cap was around 5,000 lbs.
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I cannot get the Pats system on a 1999 Ford Taurus to reset to learn a new remote fob. What could be the problem.

Ford Passive Anti-theft System (PATS) - KCSS ...

https://kcss-transportation-technology.wikispaces.com/share/.../61579706
The passive anti-theft system (PATS) uses radio frequency identification .... This hasreset instructions when you get to the point where she turns over but won't ... Took the truck to a Ford dealer and they recommended replacing the ... http://www.f150forum.com/f6/1999-f150-4-6-wont-start-anti-theft-light-flashing-129601/Missing: learn

Reference: - Ford Anti-Theft (PATS) ' FordForumsOnline.com

www.fordforumsonline.com > Ford Tech Forums > Sound & Security

Oct 26, 2010 - 16 posts - ‎3 authors
Ford SecuriLock Overview PATS is a vehicle security feature ... be noted that PATS is not your Remote Keyless Entry (Key Fob). ... The PATS Control Modules flashes the "Theft" lamp to show system ... keys are currently qualified for the 2000/1Taurus/Sable, 2001 Windstar, ..... 1999 Taurus DOHC 145,000.Missing: learn

Reprogramming procedure for Mercury, Ford and Lincoln ...

www.autorepairinstructions.com/?p=171
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2000 pontiac sunfire engine light on, fan not coming on, temp between 196-200 any ideas

I would check the computer for codes first. The cooling fan comes on at 220 degrees so if your gauge is right it should not need the fan yet.
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MY 1999 FORD EXPEDITION SHUT DOWN,I THINK IT IS MY ANTI THEFT, HOW DO I CUT IT OFF AND WHERE IS IT ON THE SUV?

The anti theft light will flash fast on the dash if it's activated. You simply lock & unlock the doors to disarm it.

Check your inertia switch to see if it is activated. Press the rest button. Se owner manual to rest.

The control functions are contained in the instrument cluster. This module carries out all of the PATS functions such as receiving the identification code from the encoded ignition key and controlling engine enable. The instrument cluster initiates the key interrogation sequence when the vehicle ignition switch is turned to RUN or START.
The PATS uses the PCM to enable or disable the engine. The instrument cluster communicates with the PCM over the SCP network in order to enable engine operation. The instrument cluster and the PCM use sophisticated messages in order to prevent a theft. The instrument cluster and the PCM share security data (when first installed together) that makes them a matched pair. After this security data sharing, these modules will not function in other vehicles. The shared PCM ID is remembered even if the battery is disconnected. The instrument cluster also stores the vehicle's key identification code even if the battery is disconnected. There are special diagnostic procedures outlined in this workshop manual that may be carried out if either a new instrument cluster or PCM needs to be installed.
All elements of PATS must be functional before the engine is allowed to start. If any of the components are not working correctly, the vehicle will not start.
PATS uses a visual theft indicator. This indicator will prove out for three seconds when the ignition switch is turned to RUN or START under normal operation. If there is a PATS problem, this indicator will either flash rapidly or glow steadily (for more than three seconds) when the ignition switch is turned to RUN or START. PATS also "blips" the theft indicator every two seconds at ignition OFF to act as a visual theft deterrent.
The PATS is not compatible with aftermarket remote start systems, which allow the vehicle to be started from outside the vehicle. These systems may reduce the vehicle security level, and also may cause no-start issues. Remote start systems must be removed before investigation of PATS-related no-start issues.
Visual Inspection Chart Mechanical Electrical
  • Ignition lock cylinder
  • Encoded ignition key (PATS key)
  • Use of non-encoded ignition key (key without the molded plastic head, non-PATS key)
  • Use of a non-programmed encoded ignition key
  • Central junction box (CJB) Fuses:
    • Fuse 2 (5A)
    • Fuse 6 (5A)
    • Fuse 30 (30A)
  • PATS transceiver
  • Connectors
  • Ignition switch
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I want to bypass my 99 ford f150 alarm system

If you are talking about the PATS system, no way to do it. There is no factory alarm from Ford, if it is a Ford OEM system, it was added at the dealer. The 97 & 98 has a factory alarm system, but this was deleted after the introduction of PATS in 1999.
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