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Failed EGR position sensor... Negative Back-pressure EGR valve: An exhaust-gas-recirculation valve having a normally closed bleed hole which opens when back pressure drops, reducing vacuum above the Diaphragm and cutting the recirculation flow. Where is this valve and how do I fix it?

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Anonymous

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  • Posted on Mar 15, 2009

SOURCE: exhaust recircuulation flow insufficient detected-p0401.

Can you give me a code number. Also the egr ports plug in the elbow the valve is bolted to. Remove the elbow and clean the ports.

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Stan Cather

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  • Posted on Jun 26, 2009

SOURCE: my 2000 rodeo check engine is on so i hade it

Check the vacuum lines going to egr. An intake cleaning may also help.

Anonymous

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  • Posted on Sep 02, 2009

SOURCE: 2003 f150 supercrew 2wd 4.6 romeo has 62000

do not use any fuel additives at all. and only use 87 octane fuel nothing higher. 4.6 and 5.4 ford engines do have a pinging sound especially with a load. but it is normal

jz auto

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  • Posted on Nov 17, 2009

SOURCE: P0401 Exhaust Gas Recirculation Flow Insufficient

check the metal line that comes off the exhaust and make sure it isnt plugged with carbon. also remove the egr and check the port and see it's clogged as well

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Vincent G

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  • Posted on Dec 19, 2009

SOURCE: 2005 Town and Country code P0404 egr

Check for

vacuum leaks on intake manifold,

the air tube between the air filter.

intake manifold vacuum hose.

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clean throttle plate with Berryman carburator cleaner

SEE sample picture HERE
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Also remove carbon built up behind the EGR valve and the EGR passage tube.

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Vacuum leak WILL offset the intended 14.7 to 1 air fuel ratio.

More un-metered air (leaks) will lean out the fuel mixture.

Use small amount of Berryman carb clearer at potential air leak area will help you identify trouble spot.

At idle,just spray and listen for the RPM surge.

The in-rush of carb clearer will increase the RPM on the motor.

Record the problem spot(s) and address it later.

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EGR carbon built up require 2+ hours to clean from start to finish.

You will need a new EGR base gasket before your start.

Locate and remove the EGR valve after the vehicle is cool down.

Carefully record the connector and vacuum line (for older vehicle) location by drawing an easily to follow diagram.

Remove the EGR valve.

Inspect the location of the carbon built-up inside the valve and the EGR passage tube.

SOAK these areas with WD-40 spary.

You will need a small screwdriver,cloth hanger and lot of newspaper and time to get this cleaning done right.

RE-SOAK the carbon and let it sit for over-night will also help.

One the last round,pass a shop vacuum of the EGR valve and the passage pipe.

Install the new EGR gasket and connectors.

Allow the vehicle to warm up outdoor to burn up any remaining WD-40.


Take it for a test drive.


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When egr opens at about 3000 rpm the engin loses power if I unplug the egr engin does rev to 6500 rpm plus have already changed fuel pump and plugs egr does open and close no back pressure in exhaust

What make , model an year vehicle ? engine ? Typically EGR valves open on deceleration ,not acceleration . Pupose for EGR ? do you know what it's pupose is ?

Exhaust gas recirculation In internal combustion engines, exhaust gas recirculation (EGR) is a nitrogen oxide (NOx) emissions reduction technique used in petrol/gasoline and diesel engines. EGR works by recirculating a portion of an engine's exhaust gas back to the engine cylinders.

Your best bet , take it to a qualified repair shop.
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Haw to fix PO405

P0405 Exhaust Gas Recirculation (EGR) Position Sensor Circuit Low Voltage
There may be no symptoms of a P0404 DTC other than the MIL (malfunction indicator lamp) or check engine light. However, Exhaust Gas Recirculation systems are inherently problematic due to carbon buildup in the intake manifold, etc. This normal buildup can lodge in an EGR valve, holding it open when it should be closed. If this is the case, the engine may idle rough, or not at all. If the valve has failed and is NOT opening, then symptoms would be higher combustion temps and as a result, higher Nox emissions. But the latter symptoms aren't going to be noticeable to a driver.
Possible Causes:
  • Short to ground in EGR signal or Reference circuits
  • Short to voltage in EGR ground or signal circuits
  • Bad EGR valve
  • Bad PCM wiring issues due to chafing or loose terminals
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I am getting OBD-II trouble code P0404 on my 2001 Chevy Malibu, and want to know, what I can do to correct that?

Here is the website I use for OBDII codes:
http://www.obd-codes.com/trouble_codes/

And it says:
P0404 - Exhaust Gas Recirculation Circuit Range/Performance OBD-II Trouble Code Technical Description

Exhaust Gas Recirculation Circuit Range/Performance
What does that mean?

The EGR (Exhaust Gas Recirculation) system's purpose is to redirect exhaust gas back into the cylinders. Since exhaust gas is inert, it displaces oxygen and fuel, thereby lowering cylinder temps, which, in turn, lowers oxides of nitrogen emissions. For that reason it needs to be carefully metered into the cylinders (via the EGR valve) so as not to adversely affect the engine's performance. (Too much EGR and the engine won't idle).
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If you have a P0404, then the EGR valve is likely an electrically controlled EGR valve instead of a vacuum controlled EGR valve. Also, the valve will usually have a feedback system built into it that informs the PCM (Powertrain Control Module) what position the valve is in; open, closed, or somewhere in between. The PCM needs to know this to determine whether or not the valve is operating as needed. If the PCM determines that the valve should be operating, but the feedback circuit shows that the valve is not open, this code will set. Or if the PCM determines the valve should be closed but the feedback signal indicates that the valve is open, this code will set.
Symptoms

There may be no symptoms of a P0404 DTC other than the MIL (malfunction indicator lamp) or check engine light. However, Exhaust Gas Recirculation systems are inherently problematic due to carbon buildup in the intake manifold, etc. This normal buildup can lodge in an EGR valve, holding it open when it should be closed. If this is the case, the engine may idle rough, or not at all. If the valve has failed and is NOT opening, then symptoms would be higher combustion temps and as a result, higher Nox emissions. But the latter symptoms aren't going to be noticeable to a driver.
Causes

Usually this code points to either carbon buildup or a bad EGR valve. However that doesn't rule out the following:

  • Open or short in the 5 Volt reference circuit
  • Open or short in the ground circuit
  • Open or short in the PCM controlled voltage circuit
  • Bad PCM (less likely)
Possible Solutions
  1. Using a scan tool command the EGR valve to open while watching the actual EGR position (it will probably be labeled "desired EGR" or something similar). The actual EGR position should be very close to the "desired" EGR position. If it is, then the problem is likely intermittent. It may have been a lodged piece of carbon that has since dislodged, or it could be a bad EGR valve winding that intermittently opens or shorts as the valve temperature changes.
  2. If the EGR "desired" position is not close to the "actual" position, then unplug the EGR sensor. Check for a good 5 Volt reference voltage to the connector. If it doesn't show a reference voltage, repair an open or short in the 5 Volt reference circuit.
  3. If there is a 5 volt reference voltage, activate the EGR with the scanner, monitor the EGR ground circuit with a DVOM (Digital Volt/Ohm meter). It should indicate a good ground. If it doesn't then repair the ground circuit.
  4. If there is a good ground, then check the control circuit. It should indicate voltage that varies according to the percentage that the EGR is open. As it's open more, the voltage should increase accordingly. If it does, then replace the EGR valve.
  5. If the voltage doesn't increase incrementally, then repair open or short in EGR control circuit.
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What is a p0404 code

P0404 - Exhaust Gas Recirculation Circuit Range/Performance
The EGR (Exhaust Gas Recirculation) system's purpose is to redirect exhaust gas back into the cylinders. Since exhaust gas is inert, it displaces oxygen and fuel, thereby lowering cylinder temps, which, in turn, lowers oxides of nitrogen emissions. For that reason it needs to be carefully metered into the cylinders (via the EGR valve) so as not to adversely affect the engine's performance. (Too much EGR and the engine won't idle).

If you have a P0404, then the EGR valve is likely an electrically controlled EGR valve instead of a vacuum controlled EGR valve. Also, the valve will usually have a feedback system built into it that informs the PCM (Powertrain Control Module) what position the valve is in; open, closed, or somewhere in between. The PCM needs to know this to determine whether or not the valve is operating as needed. If the PCM determines that the valve should be operating, but the feedback circuit shows that the valve is not open, this code will set. Or if the PCM determines the valve should be closed but the feedback signal indicates that the valve is open, this code will set.

Symptoms: There may be no symptoms of a P0404 DTC other than the MIL (malfunction indicator lamp) or check engine light. However, Exhaust Gas Recirculation systems are inherently problematic due to carbon buildup in the intake manifold, etc. This normal buildup can lodge in an EGR valve, holding it open when it should be closed. If this is the case, the engine may idle rough, or not at all. If the valve has failed and is NOT opening, then symptoms would be higher combustion temps and as a result, higher Nox emissions. But the latter symptoms aren't going to be noticeable to a driver.

Causes: Usually this code points to either carbon buildup or a bad EGR valve. However that doesn't rule out the following:
Open or short in the 5 Volt reference circuit
Open or short in the ground circuit
Open or short in the PCM controlled voltage circuit
Bad PCM (less likely)

Possible Solutions: Using a scan tool command the EGR valve to open while watching the actual EGR position (it will probably be labeled "desired EGR" or something similar). The actual EGR position should be very close to the "desired" EGR position. If it is, then the problem is likely intermittent. It may have been a lodged piece of carbon that has since dislodged, or it could be a bad EGR valve winding that intermittently opens or shorts as the valve temperature changes.
If the EGR "desired" position is not close to the "actual" position, then unplug the EGR sensor. Check for a good 5 Volt reference voltage to the connector. If it doesn't show a reference voltage, repair an open or short in the 5 Volt reference circuit.
If there is a 5 volt reference voltage, activate the EGR with the scanner, monitor the EGR ground circuit with a DVOM (Digital Volt/Ohm meter). It should indicate a good ground. If it doesn't then repair the ground circuit.
If there is a good ground, then check the control circuit. It should indicate voltage that varies according to the percentage that the EGR is open. As it's open more, the voltage should increase accordingly. If it does, then replace the EGR valve.
If the voltage doesn't increase incrementally, then repair open or short in EGR control circuit.


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What does code p0404 mean on a 2005 chrystler pacifica?

P0404 - Exhaust Gas Recirculation Circuit Range/Performance OBD-II Trouble Code Technical Description

Exhaust Gas Recirculation Circuit Range/Performance
What does that mean?

The EGR (Exhaust Gas Recirculation) system's purpose is to redirect exhaust gas back into the cylinders. Since exhaust gas is inert, it displaces oxygen and fuel, thereby lowering cylinder temps, which, in turn, lowers oxides of nitrogen emissions. For that reason it needs to be carefully metered into the cylinders (via the EGR valve) so as not to adversely affect the engine's performance. (Too much EGR and the engine won't idle).
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If you have a P0404, then the EGR valve is likely an electrically controlled EGR valve instead of a vacuum controlled EGR valve. Also, the valve will usually have a feedback system built into it that informs the PCM (Powertrain Control Module) what position the valve is in; open, closed, or somewhere in between. The PCM needs to know this to determine whether or not the valve is operating as needed. If the PCM determines that the valve should be operating, but the feedback circuit shows that the valve is not open, this code will set. Or if the PCM determines the valve should be closed but the feedback signal indicates that the valve is open, this code will set.
Symptoms

There may be no symptoms of a P0404 DTC other than the MIL (malfunction indicator lamp) or check engine light. However, Exhaust Gas Recirculation systems are inherently problematic due to carbon buildup in the intake manifold, etc. This normal buildup can lodge in an EGR valve, holding it open when it should be closed. If this is the case, the engine may idle rough, or not at all. If the valve has failed and is NOT opening, then symptoms would be higher combustion temps and as a result, higher Nox emissions. But the latter symptoms aren't going to be noticeable to a driver.
Causes

Usually this code points to either carbon buildup or a bad EGR valve. However that doesn't rule out the following:

  • Open or short in the 5 Volt reference circuit
  • Open or short in the ground circuit
  • Open or short in the PCM controlled voltage circuit
  • Bad PCM (less likely)
Possible Solutions
  1. Using a scan tool command the EGR valve to open while watching the actual EGR position (it will probably be labeled "desired EGR" or something similar). The actual EGR position should be very close to the "desired" EGR position. If it is, then the problem is likely intermittent. It may have been a lodged piece of carbon that has since dislodged, or it could be a bad EGR valve winding that intermittently opens or shorts as the valve temperature changes.
  2. If the EGR "desired" position is not close to the "actual" position, then unplug the EGR sensor. Check for a good 5 Volt reference voltage to the connector. If it doesn't show a reference voltage, repair an open or short in the 5 Volt reference circuit.
  3. If there is a 5 volt reference voltage, activate the EGR with the scanner, monitor the EGR ground circuit with a DVOM (Digital Volt/Ohm meter). It should indicate a good ground. If it doesn't then repair the ground circuit.
  4. If there is a good ground, then check the control circuit. It should indicate voltage that varies according to the percentage that the EGR is open. As it's open more, the voltage should increase accordingly. If it does, then replace the EGR valve.
  5. If the voltage doesn't increase incrementally, then repair open or short in EGR control circuit.
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Loss of power, hesitation, ODBC II error code P0404, SES light come on sometimes

P0404 - Exhaust Gas Recirculation Circuit Range/Performance OBD-II Trouble Code Technical Description

Exhaust Gas Recirculation Circuit Range/Performance
What does that mean?The EGR (Exhaust Gas Recirculation) system's purpose is to redirect exhaust gas back into the cylinders. Since exhaust gas is inert, it displaces oxygen and fuel, thereby lowering cylinder temps, which, in turn, lowers oxides of nitrogen emissions. For that reason it needs to be carefully metered into the cylinders (via the EGR valve) so as not to adversely affect the engine's performance. (Too much EGR and the engine won't idle).
If you have a P0404, then the EGR valve is likely an electrically controlled EGR valve instead of a vacuum controlled EGR valve. Also, the valve will usually have a feedback system built into it that informs the PCM (Powertrain Control Module) what position the valve is in; open, closed, or somewhere in between. The PCM needs to know this to determine whether or not the valve is operating as needed. If the PCM determines that the valve should be operating, but the feedback circuit shows that the valve is not open, this code will set. Or if the PCM determines the valve should be closed but the feedback signal indicates that the valve is open, this code will set.
SymptomsThere may be no symptoms of a P0404 DTC other than the MIL (malfunction indicator lamp) or check engine light. However, Exhaust Gas Recirculation systems are inherently problematic due to carbon buildup in the intake manifold, etc. This normal buildup can lodge in an EGR valve, holding it open when it should be closed. If this is the case, the engine may idle rough, or not at all. If the valve has failed and is NOT opening, then symptoms would be higher combustion temps and as a result, higher Nox emissions. But the latter symptoms aren't going to be noticeable to a driver.
CausesUsually this code points to either carbon buildup or a bad EGR valve. However that doesn't rule out the following:

  • Open or short in the 5 Volt reference circuit
  • Open or short in the ground circuit
  • Open or short in the PCM controlled voltage circuit
  • Bad PCM (less likely)
Possible Solutions
  1. Using a scan tool command the EGR valve to open while watching the actual EGR position (it will probably be labeled "desired EGR" or something similar). The actual EGR position should be very close to the "desired" EGR position. If it is, then the problem is likely intermittent. It may have been a lodged piece of carbon that has since dislodged, or it could be a bad EGR valve winding that intermittently opens or shorts as the valve temperature changes.
  2. If the EGR "desired" position is not close to the "actual" position, then unplug the EGR sensor. Check for a good 5 Volt reference voltage to the connector. If it doesn't show a reference voltage, repair an open or short in the 5 Volt reference circuit.
  3. If there is a 5 volt reference voltage, activate the EGR with the scanner, monitor the EGR ground circuit with a DVOM (Digital Volt/Ohm meter). It should indicate a good ground. If it doesn't then repair the ground circuit.
  4. If there is a good ground, then check the control circuit. It should indicate voltage that varies according to the percentage that the EGR is open. As it's open more, the voltage should increase accordingly. If it does, then replace the EGR valve.
  5. If the voltage doesn't increase incrementally, then repair open or short in EGR control circuit.

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Ford Taurus. Check Engine Light Code P1400

P1400 Exhaust Gas Recirculation valve position sensor
P1401 Exhaust Gas Recirculation valve position sensor
P1402 Exhaust Gas Recirculation metering orifice restricted
P1403 Exhaust Gas Recirculation differential pressure sensor
P1404 EGR Temperature Sensor circuit
P1405 Exhaust Gas Recirculation Differential Pressure Feedback Sensor upstream hose off or plugged
P1406 Exhaust Gas Recirculation Differential Pressure Feedback Sensor downstream hose off or plugged
P1407 EGR solenoid -No Flow Detected
P1408 EGR solenoid -Flow out of Self- Test Range
P1409 EGR Vacuum Regulator solenoid circuit malfunction
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I have a ford explorer sport 2002 and my chek engine light came on it put out a code PO401 do you know what i need to buy

PO401 code means that:
The PCM has determined that there is insufficient flow in the exhaust gas recirculation system. Definition: EGR system fault (Exhaust Gas Recirculation) Probable Causes: a. Blocked passage on EGR system b. Failed EGR Valve c. EGR solenoid faulty d. Failed EGR pressure sensor where applicable e. Failed EGR position sensor where applicable
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1995 mercury villager check engine code p1200 injector open

P0400 = EGR Flow
P0325 = knock sensor (Do not ever change a knock sensor, they don't affect anything and cost $600 to replace for absolutely no gain)
P1200 = I can't find this one. I think it's injector flow
report back on what you find.
Egr flow may be plugged egr passages or a bad solenoid.
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1996 PCED OBDII-Villager SECTION 1B: Description and Operation
Exhaust Gas Recirculation System
Exhaust Gas Recirculation (EGR) System Operation The exhaust gas recirculation (EGR) system (Figure 1 below) recirculates a portion of the exhaust gases into the intake manifold under average vehicle driving conditions to reduce combustion temperatures and exhaust gas NOx content. The amount of exhaust gas recirculated varies according to operating conditions and will be cut completely under:
  • Engine starting condition
  • Low engine coolant temperature condition
  • Excessively high engine coolant temperature condition
  • Engine idling condition
  • High engine speed condition
  • Mass air flow sensor failure
The exhaust gas recirculation (EGR) system on the Villager uses the exhaust gas recirculation/evaporative emission (EGR/EVAP) control solenoid valve to provide vacuum to both the EGR valve and the EVAP canister when commanded by the PCM. If the exhaust backpressure is sufficient to close the EGR backpressure transducer valve, vacuum is sent to the EGR valve and allows EGR gas to flow into the intake manifold. If the exhaust backpressure is not sufficient, the EGR backpressure transducer will remain open and allow vacuum from the EGR/EVAP control solenoid to vent to the atmosphere.
The EGR system monitor, for OBD II regulations, uses an EGR temperature sensor to monitor the EGR system. The EGR temperature sensor is a thermister located in the EGR passageway. When hot exhaust gas is recirculated into the engine, the temperature at the EGR passageway increases. This increase is sensed by the EGR temperature sensor and a signal is sent to the PCM to indicate EGR flow. If the EGR temperature sensor does not detect EGR flow when commanded by the PCM after two consecutive drive cycles, the malfunction indicator lamp (MIL) will be illuminated and a diagnostic trouble code (DTC) will be stored. The MIL will be turned off after three consecutive drive cycles are completed with no malfunctions detected. The DTC will remain stored in the PCM memory until 80 drive cycles have been completed without the same malfunction detected in the system.
Figure 1: Exhaust Gas Recirculation (EGR) System Diagram Item Number Description 1 — EGR/EVAP Control Solenoid 2 — Air Cleaner Housing 3 — Throttle Valve 4 — EGR Temperature Sensor 5 — EGR Valve 6 — EGR Backpressure Transducer 7 — EVAP Canister
Exhaust Gas Recirculation (EGR) Backpressure Transducer Valve The exhaust gas recirculation (EGR) backpressure transducer valve is used to control EGR. The EGR valve is operated by ported vacuum, but the ported vacuum will normally be vented off at the EGR backpressure transducer valve. As rpm increases, exhaust pressure increases and pushes on the diaphragm in the EGR backpressure transducer valve and closes the vacuum vent.
Figure 2: EGR Backpressure Transducer Value
Item Number Description 1 — Throttle Valve 2 — Vacuum Port 3 9D475 EGR Valve 4 9F452 EGR Backpressure Transducer Valve 5 — EVAP Canister 6 — EGR/EVAP Control Solenoid 7 — Vent
EGR/EVAP Control Solenoid The exhaust gas recirculation/evaporative emission (EGR/EVAP) control solenoid (Figure 3) is controlled by the powertrain control module (PCM). The EGR/EVAP control solenoid controls vacuum to both the exhaust gas recirculation (EGR) valve and to the evaporative (EVAP) emission canister. When the EGR/EVAP control solenoid is off (12 V signal from the PCM) vacuum is supplied to both the EGR valve and to the EVAP canister. When the EGR/EVAP control solenoid is on (ground supplied by PCM) vacuum is vented to the atmosphere keeping the EGR valve closed and no vacuum to the EVAP canister. The PCM will command the EGR/EVAP control solenoid on at:
  • Engine starting condition
  • Low engine coolant temperature condition
  • Excessively high engine coolant temperature condition
  • Engine idling condition
  • High engine speed condition
  • Mass air flow sensor failure
Figure 3: Exhaust Gas Recirculation/Evaporative Emission (EGR/EVAP) Control Solenoid
Exhaust Gas Recirculation (EGR) Temperature Sensor
The exhaust gas recirculation (EGR) temperature sensor (Figure 4) is a thermister type sensor that monitors the temperature of the exhaust in the EGR passageway. As the EGR flow increases, the temperature increases. This process creates a change in the resistance of the sensor, which decreases as the temperature increases. The signal is sent to the powertrain control module (PCM) to indicate that the EGR system is working properly. If the EGR temperature sensor does not change resistance as the PCM expects on two consecutive drives, the malfunction indicator lamp (MIL) will be illuminated and a diagnostic trouble code (DTC) will be stored.
Figure 4: EGR Temperature Sensor Exhaust Gas Recirculation (EGR) Valve
The exhaust gas recirculation (EGR) valve (Figure 5) recirculates portions of the exhaust gas back into the intake manifold to reduce the amount of the NOx released during combustion and to reduce combustion temperature. The amount of exhaust gases that are released into the engine is proportional to the load on the engine.
Figure 5: EGR Valve
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