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Eric Hamer Posted on May 07, 2010
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I changed the ignition cylinder and the theft system. will not let the car stay started how to fix the problem ..

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Hi the problem you are having is due to the fact that the new key is not programed to your cars immobiliser so if your new key is the same as your old one you need to get it programmed by main dealers, inside the old key their will be a little glass tube that has the chip in that the imobiliser picks up allowing the car to start,

try holding your old key really close to the ignition then start your car and see if it keeps running if it does you have 2 options. either get you new key programmed or get someone who knows about electrics for cars and get them to take your old key apart and remove the chip for imobiliser and then they can glue this where the imobiliser is, this means the cover has to come off the steering wheel and the chip needs gluing to the imobiliser that surrounds the ignition barrel, dont try this yourself as you can damage the chip by forcing it out of the key and it is made of thin glass so is easy to damage your best option would be to get your new key programmed

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