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The red light in the center instrument cluster is on all the time and nothing works at all. The owner's manual said this is the anti-theft system light- but says nothing about when it is on all the time. The keyless entry does not work, nor does anything else. Like the vehicle is 'locked out' or something.

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Check all fuses and switch relays that have the same numbers to find a dead relay.
Sounds like the battery died in the keyless entry as well as the battery in the car - but that is unusual unless you left the lights on or something and your keyless entry was already dying.  When you turn ignition key on do you hear a click from the relays?
More input would help.
Could be the mechanism in the lock in door where, when you unlock door with key, alarm is deactivated - this switch or the wires in the door-jam have cracked possibly from the door opening and closing especially in cold weather like here, in Canada - so your theft system is not getting that signal that the key is turned to unlock. Check the wiring by opening the black sheath in between drivers door and the car-body between hinges - slice and remove sheath if necessary - check these wires carefully as the plastic may still be good around the broken wire.
Test the battery - try a boost!

Remove Positive battery post from car for 12 hours and then replace to reset ECM.
Check the ground wire from the battery to the body and perhaps run a temporary ground to the body from the battery to a bare spot or clean bolt, and then switch from the battery negative to the engine to see if any lights activate as a bad ground to the body.

At the Starter - there are usually 2 or more wires that group together from the big post into more wires (is live (positive) - there are black gummy-bears on these lines that are fusible links (remove positive battery post) and test with an ohmeter between each side of the black gummy-bear - if no ohmeter is available put a 12 volt light on some wires or run through a 12-volt battery or charger (wires must be removed from starter to prevent power from going through system to confirm that unit is good) you can then test these fusible links in that way.
 
Next perhaps I would remove the power Distribution Center (box with fuses and relays you already switched and eliminated as problem) next to the battery usually and check the wiring underneath it and wiggle the harness connections to see if anything lights up. being careful not to do damage to any connections. also look for vacuum lines that may be needing replacing while you are in this location but has nothing to do with present problem.

I really suspect a bad wire somewhere most of all.
There is a connector on the steeriing column under the dash that connects the ignition key switch to the power distribution center and the starter connections.
There are fuses under the dash to the left of the column at times and perhaps in the glovebox or behind it.
 
Hope this helps some and not to confuse you but electrical is lots of work. Just a few tips that may assist you.
Good luck
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  1. Disconnect the negative battery cable.
  2. If your vehicle is equipped with a tilt steering wheel, move the wheel to the lowest position. If the vehicle does not have a tilt wheel, it may be necessary to lower the column.
  3. Unfasten the eight clips that retain the instrument cluster bezel and remove the bezel. There are four clips on the top of the cluster bezel and four clips on the bottom of the cluster bezel.
  4. Unplug the electrical connections from the headlamp switch, dimmer control and any other accessory switches that would interfere cluster removal.
  5. Unfasten the four cluster retaining screws and remove the cluster making sure nothing contacts the circuit connections.
  6. If replacing the bulbs, turn the bulb assembly 1 / 2 turn to the left to remove.

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Subject:Bulletin GMP07-174 - Special Coverage Adjustment #07187– Instrument Panel Cluster Gauge Needle FunctionMessage #:VSU20071575
DESCRIPTION:
SPECIAL COVERAGE Adjustment #07187– SEPTEMBER 28, 2007

DUE TO PART AVAILABILITY, THIS SPECIAL COVERAGE IS BEING ADMINISTERED IN PHASES. YOU WILL BE NOTIFIED AS EACH ADDITIONAL PHASE IS RELEASED.

CUSTOMERS ARE BEING INSTRUCTED TO CONTACT THE DEALERSHIP TO ARRANGE AN APPOINTMENT IF THEY BELIEVE THEIR VEHICLE HAS THIS CONDITION. THE CUSTOMER IS BEING ASKED TO PROVIDE THE VIN SO THE IPC CAN BE ORDERED IN ADVANCE OF THE SCHEDULED APPOINTMENT. THIS WILL ELIMINATE THE NEED TO KEEP THE VEHICLE OVERNIGHT.
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