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Anonymous Posted on Feb 15, 2010

I just took the head gasket off suspecting it was blown it looks good and the head is not warped .the problem is when i start the engine water imedeatly shoots out of the radiater fill neck when i have the cap off?

  • Anonymous Feb 15, 2010

    i think i found the problem on very closly inspection of the head i believed i found a crack between the 3rd and 4th cylinder. and there is no bleeding screw on the intake

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Could have air in the system, bleed air at the manifold, there is usually a small screw in the intake manifold....

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My neon will not start replace heads and radiator frist

Signs of a Blown Head Gasket
Note: You can only truly confirm your suspicion by actually seeing the gasket, although precursor signs are usually evident.

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If you see coolant leaking from the water pump, I would pressure-test it and pinpoint the leak and fix that first; oil seepage isn't necessarily abnormal.
Typical symptoms of a blown head gasket may include these: bubbles of air coming up into your radiator (remove cap before starting); a leaking radiator; milkshake-colored oil; overheating; rough running; coolant or oil running from head; spark plug(s) that have a green tint (if green coolant); white-colored or sweet-smelling exhaust.
White smoke from your tail pipe, or loosing coolant through your overflow. Take the cap off and rev the engine: if you see bubbles, or if it comes out, you'll know.
A blown head gasket will leave a dark smell in the radiator. And you will have high back pressure coming though your radiator cap.
Take your car to a radiator shop to have a detector installed: If the blue liquid inside a "bulb" turns yellow, you have a leak.
Beware that if you drive for too long and it overheats, a blown engine will be your outcome.
A blown head gasket can go out in different areas causing different symptoms. Do a compression test to give you some idea. Don't confuse low compression for a bad head gasket, though. A bad valve can lower compression. And a bad ring.
There are lots of clues you can look for. When in doubt and you have tried everything, have the head checked out by a well-established machine shop first, to see if the head was the problem. This way you're not wasting your time replacing the gasket.
My car once had a blown head gasket. I had a great deal of coolant loss. The engine lacked power and ran poorly. It had white smoke coming out the tail pipe. And it overheated very quickly. Also, it had water in the oil.
A quick way to check: Look at your spark plugs; if coolant squirts out, you definitely have a blown head gasket!
Low compression does not necessarily mean a blown head gasket, but it is a good indicator if there is a sharp drop in compression on one or two cylinders, with no drop in the others. Sometimes a blown head gasket will cause a whistling or wheezing sound, but not always. It will not always cause water to enter the oil - or oil to enter the water - but they are signs to look for. Overheating will almost always occur, due to the exhaust entering the coolant. Check your overflow bottle for exhaust smells. Watch for bubbles or overflow of coolant from the radiator while running the engine. Check for muddy gray-looking oil or bubbles on the dipstick.
Often (but not always), a blown head gasket will also cause deposit of water on a piece of cardboard held an inch from the tailpipe output while the engine is running (when this is happening, it is likely that the catalytic converter has been ruined and the muffler will corrode in short order as well). Sometimes drops of water will be seen dropping from the end of the tailpipe.
Another clue: Turn on the heater; often when the head gasket is blown an odor of antifreeze and synthetic rubber will emanate from the heater vents.
Many of the symptoms of a blown head gasket can be caused by some other problem in the cooling system, without the head gasket being damaged. Conversely, other problems with the cooling system can cause a blown head gasket and/or warped head. For example, a corroding radiator can send chunks of rust through the cooling system which take out the thermostat and water pump. If the thermostat is old, sticking and corroding, it can send those chunks through the system and take out the water pump or cause a blockage in the radiator, etc.
Radiator leaks can be the primary cause, or a result, of failures in other cooling system components.
Don't keep driving with the car overheated, especially if your engine has an aluminum head; you are likely to warp it. If it is warped beyond a certain tolerance, it cannot be planed and will have to be replaced when the head gasket is replaced.
One of the most common tell-tale signs is a milky-gray ring around your oil cap. When coolant enters the engine oil through a crack in the head or through a blown gasket, it evaporates and leaves a milky ring around the oil cap. Another easy way to tell is to check your oil dipstick. Change your oil and pull out the dipstick. Make sure that you take note of how far up the dipstick the oil is. Top off your cooling system and fill your cooling reservoir to the top. Screw radiator cap back on and start engine. Run engine for about 20-30 minutes or until it reaches normal operating temperature. Allow engine to cool (engine must cool completely to get accurate oil reading). Check oil dipstick again. If the oil has a watery appearance and has risen noticeably up the dipstick, then you probably have a blown head gasket or a warped head. Also, look for a sweet-smelling liquid coming out of your tailpipe. Any of the above symptoms could be the result of a blown head gasket.
The easiest way to tell is with a compression meter. This replaces the spark plug and lets you know what compression each cylinder is running at. If your compression is abnormally low, then you have a blown head gasket or a warped head. (Note: check the repair manual for appropriate compression of each cylinder.)
This can be detected in a variety of ways: One way is to note whether that part of the engine block is leaking fluid. This is difficult to determine since there are many other parts of the engine nearby that can also leak fluids, especially when a vehicle is parked in one place for more than a few hours. One of the best indications of a blown, or nearly blown, head gasket in most automobiles is when the cooling system appears to be malfunctioning. The cooling system's efficiency and performance can be directly affected by the quality of the head gasket.
If your radiator is getting low on water often, this is a sign. The water could be discharged through the tailpipe on your automobile. Another sign is if your car motor has a miss in the engine. The water could be going in on top of the cylinders. This will foul the plugs and cause it to miss.
There are a few simple indicators you can check for with the engine cold and not running: 1) contaminated oil - it will have a milky appearance from the water mixing in the oil 2) oil on the top of the coolant inside the radiator (if your vehicle has a remote header tank you may not get this); 3) Have someone crank (remove the coil lead or disable the electronic ignition) the engine on the starter with the radiator cap or coolant jacket bleed hose/bolt removed. If the coolant pulses up and down or blows bubbles, you could be in trouble. If you find any of these symptoms move on to removing the spark plugs (label the plugs and the leads as you remove them, so you can put them back in the same place) and again crank the engine on the starter. Depending on how badly your head or gasket is gone, you may get coolant or oil coming out of the plug holes. Inspection of the plugs will also reveal problems during combustion: if you have rusty flaky deposits on the plugs, you may be burning off water; and if you have a heavy carbon, you are burning oil. If you have any of the first 3 items listed (water in oil, oil in water, or pulsing coolant - but don't get any result from checking the plugs) change the oil and water as appropriate, then warm up the engine without the radiator cap on (or the bleeder hose/bolt) and watch for bubbles as the engine warms up. Put the cap back on the cooling system and take the vehicle for a short drive, or run the engine till the entire system is up to temperature and then check the oil for contamination. Having these symptoms is not always indicative of a blown head gasket; usually if the gasket is gone, there is going to be some warping of the head and or block of the engine.
Loss of engine coolant with no external leaks, a continuous stream of bubbles can be seen with the radiator cap off, black gummy and sometimes crusty stuff around the radiator


Several common signs of a blown head gasket:

Blue/white smoke coming out the tail pipe which indicates oil is burning
Dripping oil from the gasket itself
Carbon Monoxide or hydrocarbons in the cooling reservoir
Excessive coolant loss with no obvious source of leakage
Loss of power or a rough engine due to compression loss
Water mixing with oil
Oil mixing with water
Low compression in 2 or more adjacent cylinders
Remove dipstick and let a drop of fluid fall on hot part of engine - oil will smoke water will "sizzle"
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How can i tell if i have a blown head gasket and is there a difference in cracked\warped head or blown gasket when diagnosing?

Hard to tell if its a blown head gasket or warped cracked head. The symptoms will be the same. The way to check is to pull the spark plugs and look at them. If one is super clean then more then likely antifreeze is getting in that cylinder. You can buy heavy duty sealant to try to seal the leak up. You get this at a auto supply depot. Get the one that you have to drain antifreeze and replace with water. You run the engine with the spark plug removed from the cylinder that was leaking until no water comes out
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Replaced the water pump, thermostat, intake seals (top and bottom), had the radiator inspected and flushed, checked the fuses, and took it to the local auto parts store and ran the electrical test which...

You can do a few quick checks: turn your heater on full blast in side the car and start the engine. As the engine heats up, you should feel heat blowing inside the car. If not, coolant is not circulating. No circulation can be caused by an air bubble caught in the radiator after it was flushed. Look inside the radiator to check the coolant level. It should be within an inch of the top. Don't remove the radiator cap when it is hot, you can be burned by steam. Leave the cap off and start the engine. As it heats up you should see movement in the coolant if you rev up the engine. If you find no circulation, the new thermostat may be bad or not opening at the proper temperature. Check the fan to be sure it is coming on as the engine heats up. The fan is electric and is designed to cycle on and off to maintain a steady temperature in the coolant. If it is not operating properly, engine will overheat. Hopefully when the radiator was flushed, the fins were also "blown out" to allow good airflow through the radiator, if not clean the fins with a good blast of a garden hose until all the dirt, dust and bugs are gone. These are simple tests. If the engine has overheated, there is a good chance you may have warped the engine head. This is beyond the repair capabilities of most drivers. Again, simple tests are: pull your oil dipstick. If the oil is frothy and the color of hot chocolate, you have water in the oil. If you can see spots of water clinging to the dipsitck, you have water in the oil. Check your new coolant. If there is oil in the coolant, (frothy brown layer or sheen on top of coolant) you have oil in the coolant. Either condition indicates you have a blown head gasket caused by warping the head by overheating. Blown head gaskets often cause overheating. The fix is to remove the head, have it planed and rebuilt and reinstall with new head gasket. This procedure is complex and expensive. Do it yourself requires a head gasket kit and planing and rebuilding the head. Expect that repair to exceed $600.00. Good luck, hopefully you will find a circulation problem.
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the "sniffer" in this case is a device to detect the presents of combustion gasses in the water or radiator .... if there is a good head gasket seal then there should be no combustion gas in the water .... if there is even a small leak then the high pressure gasses will be forced into the water .. the opposite is true when you turn off the engine ... as it cools, pressure in the radiator can force water thru the leak back into the engine .... this also happens during the intake stroke .. so you would be losing water that you might see or smell come out the tail pipe ...the fact that the failure has happened a second time might indicate that you had a warped head or block .. or perhaps a micro crack or surface flaw.. those things should have been checked when the last repairs were done ... i am wondering if the repair shop might negotiate a reduced rate for the redo ... often heads are slightly machined to remove any warp or surface faults during such repairs (if any problems are suspected) ... a used replacement engine could have the same problem or worse .. so if yours is otherwise in good shape then it might be worth while to give it another go ,.. sounds like a good garage, hopefully they will cooperate ... and they might be interested in finding out themselves what happened ...
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BMW 520i 1996 over heating no water is in the oil and the water is not leaking any where

you have a blown head gasket, or a warped valve head. fill it up with water in the radiator look for water comming out of the tailpipe but if there is water in the oil 100% blown head gasket or warped or cracked valve head
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28 Solutions for ''HOw can I tell if I have a cracked head blown head gasket or cracked blown like how can I see it''

Often (but not always), a blown head gasket will also cause deposit of water on a piece of cardboard held an inch from the tailpipe output while the engine is running (when this is happening, it is likely that the catalytic converter has been ruined and the muffler will corrode in short order as well).

Sometimes drops of water will be seen dropping from the end of the tailpipe. Another clue: turn on the heater; often when the head gasket is blown an odor of antifreeze and synthetic rubber will emanate from the heater vents.
Many of the symptoms of blown head gasket can be caused by some other problem in the cooling system, without the head gasket being damaged. Conversely, other problems with the cooling system can cause a blown head gasket and/or warped head.

When checking for a blown head gasket, one of the most common tell-tale signs is a milky-gray ring around your oil cap. When coolant enters the engine oil through a crack in the head or through a blown gasket, it evaporates and leaves a milky ring around the oil cap. Another easy way to tell is to check your oil dipstick. Change your oil and pull out the dipstick. Make sure that you take note of how far up the dipstick the oil is. Top off your cooling system and fill your cooling reservoir to the top. Screw radiator cap back on and start engine. Run engine for about 20-30 mins. or until it reaches normal operating temperature. Allow engine to cool (engine must cool completely to get accurate oil reading!!). Check oil dipstick again. If the oil has a watery appearance and has risen noticeably up the dipstick, the you probably have a blown head gasket or a warped head. Also look for a dripping, sweet-smelling liquid coming out of your tailpipe. Any of the above symptoms could be the result of a blown head gasket. The easiest way to tell is with a compression meter. This replaces the spark plug and lets you know what compression each cylinder is running at. If your compression is abnormally low, then you have a blown head gasket or a warped head. (note: consult repair manual for appropriate compression of each cylinder.)
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Cooleant hose line broke car overheated car stoped runing no visible steam smoke replaced broken line added fluid car will still not start low compression in two chambers do I have a blown head gasket?

Remove the radiator cap,and fill to very top with coolant,then turn the engine over,and see if it pushes out the radiator ,or looks like a water fountain when turning the engine over,if it does,then the head gasket is blown,and possible warped.If not,pull the valve cover to see if the cylinders that are low,have stuck valves,that are open.Check to see if the motor oil is milky in color.If so,the heads could be cracked.Or head gasket blown.
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If your oil is milky it is a blown head gasket or worse a warped head.
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I have yet to see a cracked head on a 22R,so more than likely a blown head gasket,unless you overheated and warped the head and worst case a hole between the cylinder wall and water jacket(this is pretty rare).The only way to tell short of using some expensive tools or taking to your local shop is to pull the head and inspect the gasket for leakage wich is generally fairly obvious(separation of the gasket layers,oil and water between water and oil passages)and checking the head deck for warpage.If there is obvious leakage in the gasket you're looking at a top end gasket set if the head is slightly warped you can get away with a thick graphite head gasket,I personally use these as they are very forgiving on slightly warped and scratched head decks and inepensive also,but a severly warped head will require milling at a machine shop or replacement.
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Suspect blown head gasket and worn timing belt

yes the gasket is gone it will need the head skimmed as for belt being noisey it is probably cam belt tensioners you will get that when you get cam-belt kit and youll probably need to replace water pump as well .when you have the head off check the pistons to make sure their is not a lot of movement on them if their is you could be looking at an engine rebore hope ive helped you
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