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Where is the horn relay? - 2003 Ford Expedition

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The dealer can hook up his diagnostic tool and retrieve the fault code. -------------- SECTION 413-06: Horn 2003 Expedition/Navigator Workshop Manual DESCRIPTION AND OPERATION Horn Horn components include the following items:

  • clockspring
  • horn relay
  • horns
  • steering wheel pad horn switch
Horn switches The horn switch is incorporated into the driver side air bag module in the steering wheel. The switch is powered through the clockspring and grounded through the steering column. For removal and installation of the horn switch, refer to Section 501-20B .
Horn relay The horn relay is incorperated into the central junction box (CJB). The central junction box is located behind the passenger lower kick panel.
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Symptom Chart
Symptom Chart Condition Possible Sources Action
  • The horn does not sound
  • Central junction box (CJB).
  • CJB fuse 26 (20A).
  • Circuitry.
  • Horn switch.
  • Horn.
  • Clockspring.
  • Powertrain control module (PCM).
  • Go To Pinpoint Test A .
  • The horn sounds continuously
  • Central junction box (CJB).
  • Circuitry.
  • Horn switch.
  • Horn.
  • Vehicle security module.
  • Tire pressure monitor (TPM) module.
  • Clockspring
  • Go To Pinpoint Test B .

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Well the question still leaves several unanswered questions, can the horn be removed, if so, how? Can the Central Junction box be removed? d-1

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