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I ran a scan and it came back saying p1336 craankshaft position system variation not learned. Does anyone know exactly what this means. I know that it happened after I hit a pit whole. Do you think that it could just be the sensor and if so do you know where that is?

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Yep sounds like the crankshaft position sensor. If it happened right after you hit a pot hole it sounds like the sensor is loose. There should be a bolt that holds it in place. I have seen where the whole bolt was missing and the crank sensor was sliding in and out of the hole it goes into. Since the sensor works on a magnetic field if it is too far away from the crank you will get a code like that or if it is too close. Also, the whole sensor could be bad and it just could be a coincidence that it happened when you hit a pot hole. I would call your local GM dealer and ask them where the sensor is or talk to your autoparts store someone there might have experience with it.

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I replaced my crankshalf sensor and now it wont start on 01 buick lesabre 3800s 2 engine?

Did you do a
Crankshaft Position System Variation Learn ?
The crankshaft position system (CKP) variation compensating values are stored in the powertrain control module (PCM) non-volatile memory after a learn procedure has been performed. If the actual crankshaft position system variation is not within the crankshaft position system variation compensating values stored in the PCM, DTC P0300 may set, refer to Diagnostic Aids for DTC P0300 .
The Crankshaft Position System Variation Learn Procedure should be performed if any of the following conditions are true:
• DTC P1336 is set
• The PCM has been replaced
• The engine has been replaced
• The crankshaft has been replaced
• The crankshaft harmonic balancer has been replaced
• The crankshaft position sensor has been replaced
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How do I replace the crankshaft sensor on my 2001 Buick Regal? Both knocksensors?

You best bet is take to a ASE certified repair shop or a GM dealer ! When replacing crank sensor a special procedure has to be done with a scan tool .
Crankshaft Position System Variation Learn
The Crankshaft Position System Variation Learn Procedure should be performed if any of the following conditions are true:
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DTC P1336 is set


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The PCM has been replaced


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The engine has been replaced


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The crankshaft has been replaced


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The crankshaft harmonic balancer has been replaced


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The crankshaft position sensor has been replaced
Important: Set the vehicle parking brake and block the drive wheels when performing the crankshaft position system variation learn procedure in order to prevent personal injury. Release the throttle when the engine reaches the SECOND fuel cut off. Leaving the throttle open during the fuel cut-off will allow the engine to decel at an even rate. Once the learn procedure is completed, the PCM will return the engine control to the operator and the engine will respond to the throttle position.
Important: The scan tool crankshaft position system variation learn function will be inhibited if engine coolant temperature is less than 70?°C (158?°F). Allow the engine to warm to at least 70?°C (158?°F) before attempting the crankshaft position system variation learn procedure.
The scan tool crankshaft position system variation learn function will be inhibited if any powertrain DTCs other than DTC P1336 are set before or during the crankshaft position system variation learn procedure. Diagnose and repair any DTCs if set.
The crankshaft position system variation learn function will be inhibited if the PCM detects a malfunction involving the camshaft position signal circuit, the 3X reference circuit, or the 18X reference circuit.
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If the scan tool indicates a problem with the cam signal, refer to DTC P0341 .


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If the scan tool indicates a problem with the 3X crank signal, refer to DTC P1374 .


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If the scan tool indicates a problem with the 18X crank signal, refer to DTC P0336 .


Now why do you want to replace these thing's ? mite be able to save you some time an money. Do you have a check engine light lit ? Codes ? Does it start an run ?

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P1336 gm code

P1335 CHEVROLET P1335 CHEVROLET - Crankshaft Position Circuit Possible causes
- Faulty Crankshaft Position Sensor
- Crankshaft Position (CKP) Sensor harness is open or shorted
- Crankshaft Position (CKP) Sensor circuit poor electrical connection help.png Help with this
Symptoms
- Engine Light ON (or Service Engine Soon Warning Light)
- Lack/Loss of Power
- Engine Stall
P1335 CHEVROLET Description
The Crankshaft Position (CKP) sensor sends pulses to the Powertrain Control Module (PCM) as the reluctor wheel teeth rotate past the CKP sensor. The PCM uses the CKP pulses to synchronize the ignition and fuel injector operation, and to time the interval between each CKP pulse. The PCM determines when an excessive change in crankshaft speed occurs by comparing each new time interval with the previous interval. A misfire causes an unexpected change in the crankshaft speed. A certain amount of acceleration/deceleration is expected between each firing stroke, but if the crankshaft speed changes more than an expected amount, the PCM interprets this as a misfire. The interval between CKP sensor pulses is extremely small. At high engine speeds, slight variations in the following components make misfire detection difficult:
- Crankshaft
- Reluctor wheel
- CKP sensor
The PCM learns variations during the Crankshaft Position System Variation Learning Procedure. The PCM compensates for these variations when performing detect misfire calculations. Only a scan tool can command the PCM to perform the Crankshaft Position System Variation Learning Procedure again.
Perform the learning procedure after the following actions:
- A PCM replacement
- Any operation or repair involving the crankshaft, the CKP sensor, or the CKP sensor to reluctor wheel gap relationship.
- An engine replacement.
- The ignition switch is in the ON position until the battery is drained.


Read more: http://nissanhelp.com/diy/obd_codes/p1335_chevrolet.html#ixzz37IoD1Imx
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97 buick lesabre problems

Will it only crank with the starter shorted, and not with the key?
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Chevy express 1999 didn't start, i have a code p1336. i've change the crank shaft sensor but it didn't strat and i have a P1336 code again


Trouble Code: P1336

CKP Sensor System Variation Not Learned
Possible Causes:


Set the parking brake and block the drive wheels for safety. Verify the hood is closed. Read the trouble codes. If a code is set, refer to that code. Start the engine. Allow engine temperature to reach at least 158?F (70?C). Then key off. Select Crankshaft Position Variation Learn procedure on Scan Tool & start the vehicle. Apply the brake pedal firmly and verify the selector is in Park. Increase accelerator pedal position until fuel cutoff is reached at the test rpm (e.g., 5150). Quickly release the accelerator pedal after fuel cutoff is reached. The CKP system variation compensating values are learned when the engine speed (rpm) decreases back to idle speed and the procedure terminates. Read the trouble codes and recheck for DTC P1336. If DTC P1336 runs and passes, the CKP system variation "learn" procedure is complete. If not, look for other codes. If no codes are set, repeat the test procedure.

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Engin light is on when i check it by computer it gives me error P1336 [25,10,13,36] , please refer to relevant terchnical manual

The crankshaft position (CKP) system variation learn feature is used to calculate reference period errors caused by slight tolerance variations in the crankshaft, and the CKP sensors. The calculated error allows the powertrain control module (PCM) to accurately compensate for reference period variations. This enhances the ability of the PCM to detect misfire events over a wider range of engine speed and load.

The code P1336 is for a Crankshaft (CKP) and/or Camshaft (CMP) position sensor input signal to PCM concert. It is triggered if the input signal to the PCM for either of these sensors is erratic. Per the factory service manual, this can be due to:
- a damaged PCM
- damaged CKP sensor
- damaged CMP sensor
- base engine
- harness concerns.

The service manual suggests checking the following items:
- harness routings,
- alterations,
- improper shielding,
- or electrical interference from other improperly functioning systems.

To properly check the operation of the CMP and CKP, you'll really need an oscilloscope. The code is probably being triggered due to a faulty sensor or connection and not something that just needs to be reset.

Step / Action / Yes / No

1. Did you perform the Diagnostic System Check-Engine Controls?
Yes: Go to Step 2
No: Go to Diagnostic System Check - Engine Controls

2. Preform the CKP system variation learn procedure. Refer to CKP System Variation Learn Procedure. Did you complete the action?
Yes: Go to Step 3
No: Go to Diagnostic Aids

3. Clear the DTCs with a scan tool.
Turn OFF the ignition.
Start the engine.
Operate the vehicle within the Conditions for Running the DTC as specified in the supporting text.
Does the DTC run and pass?
Yes: Go to Step 4
No: Go to Step 2

4. With a scan tool observe the stored information, Capture Info.
Does the DTC run and pass?
Yes: Go to Diagnostic Trouble Code (DTC) List
No: System OK


Diagnostic Aids:
The CKP system variation values are not stored in the PCM memory after a learn procedure has been performed. If the actual CKP variation is not within the CKP system variation compensating values stored in the PCM, DTC P0300 may set.

The CKP system variation learn procedure is also required when the following service procedures have been performed, regardless of whether DTC P1336 is set.
An engine replacement
A PCM replacement
A harmonic balancer replacement
A crankshaft replacement
Any engine repairs which disturb the CKP sensor relationship

If the CKP system variation learn procedure cannot be performed successfully, check for the following conditions and correct as necessary:
A damaged reluctor wheel
Excessive crankshaft runout
A damaged crankshaft
Interference in the signal circuit of the CKP sensor
A coolant temperature that is not within the Conditions For Running the DTC
The ignition switch is in the ON position until the battery is drained
A PCM power disconnect with the ignition ON may erase the stored value and set the DTC P1336

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P1336

P1336 CHEVROLET - Crankshaft Position (CKP) System Variation Not Learned


Explanation:


Basically using the CPS (crank position sensor) the ECU can see rotations on the crank. Using other sensor data it should be able to actually figure out exactly where it is in reference to TDC. if you think about it there is a gear on the crank the triggers the sensor, so the sensor is just sending pulses so it has to do some math to figure out where it is.

Once it has figured out where it is, it can then look at the acceleration of the crank on a per power stroke basis. if it doesn't then see the acceleration where there should be, it can then say exactly which cyld is not firing.

anyway, the point is that it is saying it was unable to decipher the crankshaft position/variation. so right now it is in a learn mode and it failed and there could be a couple reasons why.

-A chipped or damaged reluctor wheel.
-Excessive Crank run out
-Interference in the signal from the CKP sensor.
-Incorrect alignment of the CKP sensor to the reluctor wheel
-incorrect ratio of crankshaft to camshaft pulses

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I have a p1336 code. is it a bad sensor or a wire problem ?

This is from updated GM service manual of mine.


According to the GM factory service manual, the OBD-II trouble code, P1336, is defined as follows: DTC P1336 CKP System Variation Not Learned. The factory service manual does not enumerate all of the symptoms of this trouble code, but after consulting a professional custom PCM tuner, it was learned that aside from the annoying light on the instrument cluster, the other symptoms exhibited may include: poor vehicle performance, and loss of misfire detection diagnostics.


This DTC is particularly nasty, because simply clearing it by disconnecting the battery, or clearing it using an OBD-II scan tool will not address the problem. The code will be set again later unless the vehicle is run through the actual "crank relearn" procedure.


Fixing the Dreaded P1336 DTC


There is only one way to properly fix the P1336 DTC, and that's to perform a "crank relearn" procedure, or as the GM factory service manual procedure calls it, the CKP System Variation Learn Procedure. This procedure can be initiated and performed by GM's be-all end-all scan tool, the Tech-2. It can also be performed by some aftermarket scan tools. Furthermore, some of the PCM tuning software applications are capable of initiating a "crank relearn" procedure.

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Lincoln ls has a trouble code p1336 and po350

P0350 is Ignition coil primary/secondary circuit malfunction,could be faulty igntion coil or module.P1336 is crankshaft position system variation not learned.This is done with a Tech2 at your local dealership you would be best served taking this car to your dealer to have it diagnoised.
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Rough running 98 chev S-10, trouble code P1336

Change your crankshaft position sensor (CPS)

P1336 Crankshaft Position System Variation Not Learned
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