H23 92 Prelude - Crank Pulley fell off

Usually with a heavy duty impact wrench (rattle gun). Put some thread-lock compound on the bolt also, as that is standard practice.

There may be at the transmission end some means of stopping the crank from turning, and then you could use a torque wrench.

this is covered in the FSM. 95 accord.
did you google this?
http://www.honda-acura.net/forums/accord/137349-1993-f22-crank-cam-balance-shaft-seal-hell.html

are you sure its only the crank seal,????
gravity lies. as does windage effects.
is this an A/T or M/T car, the latter makes the bolt come off easy
(5th gear + brakes) the slush pump tranny NOT.
so if you read the FSM it states." it shows photo of tire off and pulley bolt view and how the body ends just above that bolt, (see it?)

1. Disconnect the negative battery cable.
2. Remove the accessory drive belts.
3. If necessary, secure the crankshaft with a flywheel holding tool.

For some engines, a special pulley holder tool is available to secure the pulley while removing and installing the bolt (refer to the illustration)."
4 Remove the crankshaft pulley bolt. This bolt can be difficult to remove. Spray the bolt with penetrating oil and allow it to soak overnight. Book forgets to see CCW direction on bolt (RHT)
the bolt will take about 200fl/lbs of reverse torque to get off.
5 Carefully remove the pulley from the crankshaft. Do not pry it off.
6:
Remove the key from the crankshaft sprocket. Be sure not to lose it.
7 -If necessary, remove the tool holding the crankshaft.

remove seal with seal puller or screw trick ,etc.
do not damage the seal base collar of the housing. DO NOT.

is this your first engine seal work>?
or done many , just need help with one honda.?
if doing all work on a honda, did you ever consider a real FSM?
why not get one, and read it, and all the steps and warnings.
worst case.
if you work engines, you know as you go , you see
Omg, it not the crank it the cam leaking, or just a bad valve cover.
fate happens, distributor seal leak too.

with all FWD, doing a crank seal can be easy or hard.
no access panels in finder
or on some cars, 7ton pressed on pulley, (Dodge neons/ yuk)

bolt spec:
1994-95 Accord and Prelude-181 ft. lbs. (245 Nm)

if the 90,000 mile timing belt is ignored, you will bend the head valves over, or worse... so...... all this , is a consideration.

no engine stated, so any help will be wrong, !!!!!!
V6? we cant open hood and look, so we are blind as bats. here.

bad input nets bad output , just like a computer.

i dont think its LHT. left hand treads.
its either rusty,
or last guy used red loctite and needs 300F heat to get IT, soft.
or your not trying up to 150fl-lbs of reverse torque.
my damper is at 100/ft/lbs
and will take way more to break free (no locktite)
my guess 2 is this is a slush pump car, a A/T tranny?
and as such , you cant lock the M/t in 5th gear?
sure, and the FSM shows what to do , to get it off for A/Ts
some engines, have special tool.
and or a pulley locking device. (home made works, made many)
some guys just use impact gun and strip the treads out of the crank
and the new FSMs all say, (DONT DO THAT, exactly)
in a shop the dork that does that , just calls you and say, hey buddy
your crankshaft is wrecked, (dont let them touch your engine)

btw l, read the fsm.
and all words for the UNSAID actions you are taking.
here is one , just to scare you.
quotes.
Reprogram the crankshaft position (CKP) pattern. Run the engine until the operating temperature reaches 176 degree. With the engine stopped clear the CKP pattern. Turn the ignition switch OFF. Turn the ignition switch ON and wait thirty seconds.
Check PULSAR F/B LEARN in the data list with the HDS. If not complete repeat the procedure. If complete, road test the vehicle on a level surface. Decelerate the engine speed of 5000 rpm to 3000 rpm. If equipped with automatic transaxle use two Drive positions. If equipped with manual transaxle use first gear.
see, may be the stuck bolt is a blessing,


here i will quote the pulley page for the 3.0L
just to show what a pain A/T cars are. (unsaid tranny )

1. Raise and safely support the vehicle.
2. Remove the right front wheel.
3. Remove the splash shield.
4. Remove the drive belt.
5. Hold the pulley with the holder handle (A) and holder attachment (B).
6. Remove the bolt with a heavy duty 19 mm socket (C) and breaker bar, then remove the crankshaft pulley.

7- clean the crankshaft pulleys (A), crankshaft (B), bolt (C), and washer (D). Lubricate with new engine oil as shown.
Install the crankshaft pulley, and tighten the bolt, as follows. Do not use an impact wrench.

• Hold the pulley with the holder handle (A) and holder attachment (B), then tighten the bolt to 47 ft. lbs. (64 Nm) with a torque wrench and 19 mm socket (C)
• Mark (D) the bolt head and crankshaft pulley as shown, then tighten the bolt an additional 60 ? (The mark on the bolt head should line up with the mark on the crankshaft pulley)

1. Install the drive belt.
2. Install the splash shield.
3. Install the right front wheel.

note carefully this bolt is not set to a final torque,
it uses base plus angle.
id use a new bolt. (im savvy and hate buying new crank shafts)

You will have to buy a new pulley to crankshaft bolt and washer. Or did you find that as well when you picked up the damper? Probably fell off a long time earlier. Buy a used one from salvage, or get one from a Jeep dealer.
The damper should only go on one way. Or there may be a missing woodruff key. It would fit into a slot on the crankshaft, holding the pulley in a set position. If the woodruff key is missing, you will have to find one of them as well.
Working from underneath, remove the "belly pan" mounted below the front of the engine. Book says you MAY need to remove cooling fans and radiator for access-but that is for removing the old pulley with a pulling tool. You may be able to get it all back together without pulling the fans or radiator off. Put a little clean oil on the crankshaft, align the key slot of damper with crank key and tap the pulley on with a soft faced mallet or appropriate tool. Get the pulley on, tighten down the bolt tight as you can get it, then belts back on. Then go to a shop and have someone put an impact tool onto the bolt to torque it down to specs-80 FT-lbs.

get another probley can get one from a junk yard and have it installed and torqued if crank shaft is ok

CHECK SEE IF CRANK SHAFT PULLEY BOLTS LOOSE.IF CRANKSHAFT PULLEY LONG BOLT TORQUE IS FOR 130 FT LBS FOR 1.8L ENGINE. IF YOU HAVE THESE ENGINES CRANKSHAFT BOLT TORQUE IS 174 - 181 FT LBS ENGINES ARE 3.0L 3.2L 3.5L 2.3L 2.5L IF CRANKSHAFT PULLEY BOLT IS TIGHT.THE CRANKSHAFT PULLEY ITSELF BROKEN NEED REPLACING.

1. Jack up front of vehicle and support on safety stands. Remove left front wheel.
2. Remove alternator/water pump drive belt. Remove water pump pulley.
3. Remove A/C belt if equipped.
4. Remove valve cover.
5. Remove upper timing belt cover.
6. Rotate crankshaft until No. 1 cylinder is at TDC compression stroke and camshaft sprocket timing marks align with edge of cylinder head. "UP" cast on sprocket will be at top when sprocket is in correct position. Crankshaft may be rotated using a socket wrench inserted through access hole in left fender well (engine rotates counterclockwise).
7. Unbolt and remove crank pulley. Remove rubber seal washers from belt tensioner pivot and adjustment bolts protruding through lower belt cover. Remove belt cover retaining bolts and remove cover from below.
8. Remove concave belt retainer from end of crankshaft. If timing belt is to be reused, mark direction of rotation before removing.
9. Loosen belt tensioner pivot and adjustment bolts. Push tensioner away from belt and retighten adjustment bolt to hold tensioner in this position. Remove belt.
10. Insert a suitable tool through cam sprocket and brace against cylinder head. Remove bolt and pull sprocket from camshaft.
11. Without dislodging key, install new sprocket on camshaft. Torque bolt to 22 ftlb (30 Nm).
12. Install new timing belt by starting at crank gear and working it over cam sprocket in clockwise direction. Ensure that timing marks are properly aligned.
13. Release tensioner by loosening adjustment bolt. After tensioner contacts belt, retighten bolt.
14. Rotate engine at least one full turn (counterclockwise) and check that timing marks are aligned. Loosen adjustment bolt and allow tensioner to take out any remaining belt slack. Torque adjustment and pivot bolts to 22 ftlb (30 Nm).
15. Install remaining components in reverse order of removal. Torque fasteners to following values:

TORQUE VALUES

Valve Cover Nuts - 7 ftlb (10 Nm)
Cam Sprocket Bolt - 22 ftlb (30 Nm)
Tensioner Pivot Bolt - 22 ftlb (30 Nm)
Tensioner Adjust Bolt - 22 ftlb (30 Nm)
Belt Cover Bolts - 7 ftlb (10 Nm)
Crank Pulley Bolt - 83 ftlb (115 Nm)
Water Pump Pulley Bolts - 9 ftlb (12 Nm)

Hi,


It seems you are encountering problems trying to set the timing marks in your elantra,not to worry,simply follow the stepwise solution below;
Ensure timing marks aligned [6] & [7] .

STEP 1. Fit timing belt in anti-clockwise direction, starting at crankshaft sprocket. Ensure belt is taut between sprockets.

STEP 2. Slacken tensioner pulley bolt [8].Push tensioner pulley firmly against timing belt to tension belt.



STEP 3. Tighten tensioner pulley bolt [8] . Tightening torque: 43-55 Nm.


STEP 4. Except Matrix: Turn crankshaft one turn clockwise.



STEP 5. Matrix: Turn crankshaft two turns clockwise.


STEP 6. Ensure timing marks aligned [6] .


STEP 7. Apply a load of 2 kg to belt at .Belt should deflect 4-6 mm. If not Adjust position of tensioner pulley.



STEP 8. Install components in reverse order of removal.


STEP 9. Tighten crankshaft pulley bolt [2] . Tightening torque: 170-180 Nm
(7) is timing mark on cam,pin mark to top,hole in spoke below pin mark lines up with mark on head (6) is crank timing mark,pin mark on crank lines up with markS on block.





Good luck.

Timing Belt, Sprockets & Front Cover Removal & Installation Timing belt To Remove:

1. Disconnect the negative battery cable.
2. Remove the exhaust side spark plugs, outer timing belt cover, and crankshaft pulley.
3. Turn the crankshaft until the number one piston is at top dead center (TDC). CAUTION
   The camshaft belt tensioner tool (303-097) can be damaged when trying to relieve belt tension if you attempt to remove the belt without first loosening both the timing belt tensioner adjusting bolt and the spring pivot bolt.
   
4. Loosen the timing belt spring pivot bolt, but do not remove it at this point in the procedure.
5. Loosen the adjusting bolt slowly and release the spring tension.
6. Turn the tensioner with the camshaft belt tensioner tool (303-097), against the spring pressure, clockwise to the farthest position.
7. While holding it in this position, tighten the adjusting bolt to hold the tensioner away from the belt.
8. Remove the timing belt.

To Install:

1. Be certain that on piston number one, the crankshaft is at TDC with the crankshaft keyway pointing straight up and the circle on the crankshaft sprocket lined up with the notch on the engine front cover.
2. Line up the timing marks.
3. Install the timing belt over the crankshaft sprocket going counterclockwise over the oil pump sprocket and over the camshaft sprocket.
4. Loosen the bolt allowing the tensioner pulley to press against the timing belt. NOTE: The timing belt tensioner should not be tightened or the belt tension will not be evenly distributed over the whole belt.
   
5. Turn the crankshaft two revolutions clockwise. Next, slowly bring the crank to the number one position firing position with the keyway on the crank facing up. The dot on the crankshaft gear is lined up with the notch on the front cover.
6. Check the timing mark alignment again. If necessary, repeat the procedure.
7. Tighten the bolts. Torque the pivot bolt to 30-40 ft-lb (40-55 Nm). Torque the adjustment/locking bolt to 26-33 ft-lb (35-45 Nm).
8. Install the crankshaft pulley and tighten the bolt. Torque to 93-121 ft-lb (125-165 Nm).
9. Install the outer timing belt cover and tighten the bolt. Torque to 70-106 in-lb (8-12 Nm).
10. Install the exhaust side spark plugs.

Sprockets To Remove:

1. Remove the timing belt.
2. Install the camshaft sprocket holding/removing tool (303-098) onto the sprocket.
3. Remove the camshaft sprocket.

To Install:

1. Place the key and camshaft sprocket on the shaft.
2. Install the camshaft sprocket holding/removing tool (303-098) onto the camshaft sprocket and tighten the bolt. Torque to 52-70 ft-lb (70-95 Nm).
3. Remove the tool then install the timing belt.

Outer Cover To Remove:

1. Before servicing the vehicle, refer to the precautions in the beginning of this section.
2. Disconnect the negative battery cable.
3. Remove the fan shroud.
4. Loosen the bolts on the water pump pulley, but do not remove them at this point in the procedure.
5. Remove the drive belt, the water pump pulley, and the fan and clutch assembly.
6. Recover the refrigerant from the A/C system.
7. Disconnect the A/C wiring connector.
8. Remove the A/C compressor from the mounting bracket then remove the A/C mounting bracket with the power steering pump still attached.
9. Remove the outer timing belt cover.

To Install:

1. Install the outer timing belt cover. Torque to 70-106 in-lb (8-12 Nm).
2. Install the A/C mounting bracket with the power steering pump still attached. Torque the M10 bolts and stud to 35 ft-lb (48 Nm) and torque the M8 bolt to 18 ft-lb (25 Nm).
3. Install the A/C compressor to the mounting bracket. Torque to 16-20 ft-lb (21-28 Nm).
4. Connect the A/C wiring connector.
5. Refill the refrigerant into the A/C system.
6. Install the fan and clutch assembly, the water pump pulley, and the drive belt.
7. Tighten the bolts on the water pump pulley. Torque to 13-17 ft-lb (17-23 Nm).
8. Install the fan shroud. Torque to 54-70 in-lb (6-8 Nm).
9. Connect the negative battery cable.
10. Start the engine. Check for leaks and repair as necessary.

Inner Cover To Remove:

1. Loosen oil pump sprocket bolt.
2. Remove timing belt, timing belt tensioner, oil pump sprocket, and crankshaft pulley.
3. Remove inner timing belt cover.

To Install:

1. Install inner timing belt cover.
2. Install crankshaft pulley. Torque to 93-121 ft-lb (125-165 Nm).
3. Install the oil pump sprocket.
4. Install the timing belt tensioner. Torque the pivot bolt to 30-40 ft-lb (40-55 Nm). Torque the adjustment/locking bolt to 26-33 ft-lb (35-45 Nm).
5. Install the timing belt.
6. Tighten the oil pump sprocket bolt. Torque to 30-40 ft-lb (40-55 Nm).
7. Torque the camshaft bolt to 52-70 ft-lb (70-95 Nm).

This is the complete procedure from the service manual on how to replace the timing belt start to finish, start over to assure u get it right, if u mess up the engine will be damaged

Removal for 1.6L engines : ONLY 2006 to 2009 CARS


Engine removal is not required for this procedure.

1.Remove the engine cover.

2.Remove the RH front wheel.

3.Remove the 2 bolts and RH side cover.

4.Temporarily loosen the water pump pulley bolts.

5.Remove the alternator drive belt

6.Remove the air conditioner compressor drive belt

7.Remove the power steering pump drive belt

8.Remove the 4 bolts and water pump pulley.

9.Remove the 4 bolts and timing belt upper cover

10.Turn the crankshaft pulley, and align its groove with timing mark "T" of the timing belt cover. Check that the timing mark of camshaft sprocket is aligned with the timing mark of cylinder head cover. (No.1 cylinder compression TDC position)

11.Remove the crankshaft pulley bolt and crankshaft pulley

12.Remove the crankshaft flange

13.Remove the 4 bolts and timing belt lower cover

14.Remove the timing belt tensioner and timing belt.

15.Remove the bolt and timing belt idler

16.Remove the crankshaft sprocket

17.Remove the cylinder head cover.

(1)Remove the wire harness bracket

(2)Remove the ignition coil.

(3)Remove the PCV (Positive Crankcase Ventilation) hose and the breather hose from the cylinder head cover

(4)Remove the engine cover bracket

(5)Loosen the cylinder head cover bolts and then remove the cover and gasket.

18.Remove the camshaft sprocket.

Hold the portion of the camshaft with a hexagonal wrench, and remove the bolt with a wrench and remove the camshaft sprocket.

INSTALLATION:

1.Install the camshaft sprocket and tighten the bolt to the specified torque.

(1)Temporarily install the camshaft sprocket bolt

(2)Hold the portion of the camshaft with a hexagonal wrench, and tighten the bolt with a wrench
Tightening torque :78.5 ~ 98.1N.m (8.0 ~ 10.0kgf.m, 57.9 ~ 72.3lb-ft)



2.Install the cylinder head cover.

(1)Install the cylinder head cover and bolts
Tightening torque :7.8 ~ 9.8N.m (0.8 ~ 1.0kgf.m, 5.8 ~ 7.2lb-ft)

(2)Install the engine cover bracket

(3)Install the PCV(Positive Crankcase Ventilation) hose and breather hose to the cylinder head cover.

(4)Install the ignition coil.

3.Install the crankshaft sprocket

4.Align the timing marks of the camshaft sprocket and crankshaft sprocket with the No.1 piston placed at top dead center and its compression stroke.

5.Install the idler pulley and tighten the bolt to the specified torque.

Tightening torque :42.2 ~ 53.9N.m (4.3 ~ 5.5kgf.m, 31.1 ~ 39.8lb-ft)

6.Temporarily install the timing belt tensioner

7.Install the belt so as not give slack at each center of shaft. Use the following order when installing timing belt.
Crankshaft sprocket →idler pulley →camshaft sprocket →timing belt tensioner

8.Adjust the timing belt tension.

(1)Loosen the tensioner pulley mounting bolt and apply tension to the timing belt.

(2)After checking the alignment between each sprocket and each timing belt tooth, tighten the mounting bolt and one by one.

Tightening torque :19.6 ~ 26.5N.m (2.0 ~ 2.7kgf.m, 14.5 ~ 19.5lb-ft)

(3)Then recheck the belt tension.
Verify that when the tensioner and the tension side of the timing belt are pushed in horizontally with a moderate force [approx. 49N (11lb)], the timing belt cog end is aprox. 1/2 of the tensioner mounting bolt head radius (across flats) away from the bolt head center.

4)Timing belt tension measuring procedure
(by a sonic tension guage)
Rotate crankshaft in clockwise direction to set 1st piston on top dead center (TDC) and rotate crankshaft in counterclockwise to 90° then measure the belt tension in the middle of tension side span (in arrow direction of above illustration) by free vibration method.


9.Turn the crankshaft two turns in the operating direction (clockwise) and realign crankshaft sprocket and camshaft sprocket timing mark.


10.Install the timing belt lower cover with 5bolts

Tightening torque :7.8 ~ 9.8N.m (0.8 ~ 1.0kgf.m, 5.8 ~ 7.2lb-ft)

11.Install the flange and crankshaft pulley, and then tighten crankshaft pulley bolt. Make sure that crankshaft sprocket pin fits the small hole in the pulley.

Tightening torque :137.3 ~ 147.1N.m (14.0 ~ 15.0kgf.m, 101.3 ~ 108.5lb-ft)

12.Install the timing belt upper cover with 4 bolts.

Tightening torque :7.8 ~ 9.8N.m (0.8 ~ 1.0kgf.m, 5.8 ~ 7.2lb-ft)

13.Install the water pump pulley and 4 bolts.

14.Install the power steering pump drive belt

15.Install the air conditioner compressor drive belt

16.Install the alternator drive belt

17.Install the RH side cover with 2 bolts

18.Install the RH front wheel.


Tightening torque :88.3 ~ 98.1N.m (9.0 ~ 10.0kgf.m, 65.1 ~ 72.3lb-ft)

19.Install the engine cover with bolts.


Tightening torque :3.9 ~ 5.9N.m (0.4 ~ 0.6kgf.m, 2.9 ~ 4.3lb-ft)