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Anonymous Posted on Sep 25, 2009

Bearing noise on the righthand side of motor sounds like the waterpump.How do I remove the serpentine belt and the viscous fan

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Get a stethoscope at the Auto Parts store. There cheap and work very well. Listen to the water pump,alternator,pulleys etc. Be careful with eng running. Most serpentine belts have a spring loaded pulley tensioner you have to hold with the correct long handle 1/2 "drive ratchet and maybe a drive socket if it's not 1/2" Me not being an Audi guy, you may have bolts but most new veh have threaded fan hubs. You most definently will need to invest in tools,wrenches specific to water pump pulley removal. I have been at this 45 years and $45,000 in snap-on tools and it never ends.

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There is a tensioner pulley that you must loosen by turning counterclockwise with a wrench until you can loosen the belt enough to pull off the fan has several bolts that must be taken off with a socket and i usually take the fan off first before the hose to give me some tension to brake the bolts loose, also try using some type of pry in the metal part of the fan to hold it in place if it turns

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The water pump can be removed and installed without discharging the air conditioning system (if equipped).
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  2. Drain cooling system.
  3. Do not waste reusable coolant. If solution is clean, drain coolant into a clean container for reuse.
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  3. Remove fan shroud attaching hardware (two bolts at bottom-two clips at top).
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  1. Clean gasket mating surfaces.
  2. Using a new gasket, install water pump to engine as follows: Guide water pump nipple into bypass hose as pump is being installed. Install water pump bolts. Tighten water pump mounting bolts to 40 Nm (30 ft. lbs.) torque.
  3. Position bypass hose clamp to bypass hose.
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  5. Install a new O-ring to the heater hose coolant return tube. Coat the new O-ring with antifreeze before installation.
  6. Install coolant return tube and its mounting bolt to engine. Be sure the slot in tube bracket is bottomed to mounting bolt. This will properly position return tube.
  7. Connect radiator lower hose to water pump.
  8. Connect heater hose and hose clamp to coolant return tube.
  9. Install water pump pulley. Tighten bolts to 27 Nm (20 ft. lbs.) torque. Place a bar or screwdriver between water pump pulley bolts to prevent pulley from rotating.
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  12. Position fan shroud and fan blade/viscous fan drive assembly to vehicle as a complete unit.
  13. Install fan shroud.
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  15. Fill cooling system.
  16. Connect battery negative cable.
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A gasket is used as a seal between the water pump and timing chain case/cover.

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Clean gasket mating surfaces.
Using a new gasket, position water pump and install mounting bolts as shown. Water Pump Installation - Tighten water pump mounting bolts to 54 N·m (40 ft. lbs.) torque.
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Connect radiator lower hose to water pump.
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Fill cooling system. Refer to Refilling the Cooling System in this group.
Connect negative battery cable.
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