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Posted on Jul 19, 2009

Low voltage to fuel pump....and no fuel to fuel rail.

I've gotten low voltage to my fuel pump and therefore it will not activate. The relay is good. Fuses are good.

  • atlantavirus Jul 19, 2009

    I have checked wiring from fuse panel all the way back to pump. It looks like a recent pump job was done. I've dropped the tank and extracted the pump. Pump is fine. I am having trouble figuring out what is shorting out my power in my main pump wire."which is pink"

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