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Initial idle cold is 2000+ rpm start up hot is 1800 - comes down to 800 rpm.

No codes or vacuum leaks found

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Check the automatic idle control module.

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Ronnie Wilson

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  • Posted on Oct 04, 2009

SOURCE: same problem

Sounds Like IDEL AIR CONTROL VALVE Locater ON Throtle Body

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Anonymous

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  • Posted on May 03, 2011

SOURCE: 1995 Mark viii 4.6L. Problem

Assuming you don't have any stray vacuum lines, I'd look into the TPS (throttle position sensor) Most idling problems can be traced back to the TPS.

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Anonymous

  • Posted on Oct 20, 2012

SOURCE: 2005 lincoln ls has 1500rpm idle when started would like to adjust it down

The idle is controlled by the PCM, there
is nothing to adjust,it is all drive by wire

Does it go down to 750 rpm after about one minute
from a cold start ? About 1200 cold-- that is normal
Are you in a hurry-- let the car warn up, it won't run on
O2 Sensors for about 5 min until warm

Make sure your using 5W-20 full syn oil every 4,000
miles at most & change the power steering fluid & trans
on all veh every 3 years-- if you want them to last

I have a 2004 LS V8

Do you have stored codes ?

Have you had other issues lately ?

Is the battery original if so replace it,
that is your problem

Have to get battery from dealers parts counter
as it has a vent for the hose out of trunk

The price is on the web site & is not discounted to
repair shops

I think I paid $119.00 in May but i pay no tax

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Andrew Kerchen

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  • Posted on Jan 01, 2015

SOURCE: rough up & down Idle condition when cold or warm

Try cleaning throttle plate tho it tells you not to try replace pcv also

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and posted under the hood in USA.
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ISC valve dirty , clean it.
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