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Michael Vandenhoy Posted on Jan 24, 2016
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I have replaced 3 disc brake calipers on my 2001 pt cruiser. after bleeding all 4 brakes 3 times, I started the car and brake pedal goes to floor. is my brake booster shot?

Replaced right rear disc caliper and both front disc calipers because bleeders were stripped. Blead brakes on all 4 disc calipers 3 times.Had good brake pedal until I started up car. Then brake pedal went to floor. Reblead brakes 3 more times. Same results.When I bleed the brakes I have someone in car pump the brakes 10 times and then hold pedal down while I open brake bleeder and bleed brake fluid into bottle. I use clear plastic tube to bleed from brake bleeder to bottle. Everything looks good when I do this I bleed until bobbles are out and clear fluid comes out.

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You must start bleeding the brakes at the wheel farthest from the master cylinder (usually the right rear), then the next farthest from the master cylinder, then the next, then the closest. If your master cylinder is at the left front of the car, start with the right rear, then the left rear, then the right front, then the left front. If you don't bleed the brakes in the correct order, you are just shifting the air in the lines from one line to another. Make sure that you close the bleeder before letting the brake pedal up, and the engine should not be running when you bleed the brakes... Make sure that the emergency brake is off. Make sure that the master cylinder does not run out of brake fluid at any time that you are bleeding the brakes.

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