Engine idles @ 1400 rpm - Replaced IAC and TPS - Cleared codes - Checked for vacuum leaks none detected - tested EGR appears to be functioning The only way I can get it to idle down is to bypass egr solenoid/valve? and apply vacuum to egr directly - I suspect the control valve/solenoid? but have no idea how to test it
Year/make/model??? Applying vacuum to the EGR and making the valve open will not be the correction. Once opened, this valve allows unburned exhaust gas back into the combustion chamber resulting in a rich mixture. The computer sees this rich mixture and reduces the injector pulse allowing the idle to slightly lower. If the vehicle were at proper idle speed and this valve is opened, it would run rough snd possibly stall
resulting in a lean mixture, exhaust gas with air fuel mixture will lean the mixture !
I respectively disagree Jeff.... An opened EGR will cause a rich condition
How can adding burnt exhaust gas richen the air fuel mixture ! It is an inert gas , it can't cause a richer mixture . Adding exhaust gas to the air fuel charge cools down the combustion camber temp. to reduce NOX That's it . Helps stop spark knock ,pinging . I don't know where you went to school, I have over thirty years experience ,worked for Chevy dealerships , Cadillac , Pontiac , Toyota ,
You need to watch this video https://youtu.be/9ifz8YdN2kM
Thanks, Paul - perhaps I need to clarify - 98 Sebring 2.5 - Did not mean to imply that egr was the fix/cause, only that it was the ONLY way I can get it to idle down. All scan data is within parameters with the exception of the downstream O2 sensor and it's maxed out constantly. Could this be the cause?
I suspect the control valve/solenoid? but have no idea how to test it , he did imply !
Paul, If you have any input, it would be appreciated. While Jeff seems to have the answer,he would rather talk down to someone looking for a little help. Thanks
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The EGR has nothing to do with a high idle , now if the engine didn't idle , then I would suspect the EGR valve . Do you even know what an EGR valve is for ? Go to youtube an check out videos on egr function ! If the egr valve was stuck open it would be allowing exhaust gas to dulte the air fuel mixture to much causing the engine to stall . If it were stuck closed it wouldn't do anything ! It sounds like you don't know what your doing ! I suggest you take your vehicle to a qualified ASE certified repair shop
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I do, I have over thirty years experience have my own shop ,worked for a number of dealer shipes , I don't need to post questions here ! I have factory service information for all make an model vehicles .No help to your because you think you know more then what you do. You need to take it to a ASE certified repair shop , I don't know it all , but I know more then you an that other person will ever know .
Blah, Blah, Blah, Having access to information that I do not, does not make you the smartest - however you are, by far, the rudest and most disrespectful person I have ever encountered on any help site.
Your credentials mean nothing to me - I was a shop owner myself, in the industry for over fifty years and have likely forgotten more than you will ever know and have seen way too many "ASE Certified Master Mechanics" that I wouldn't trust to change my oil.
I'm just trying to help a neighbor out and since I no longer have access to Shop Key or Mitchell Repair I have to rely on help sites like this. While that may leave me ignorant it does not mean that I lack intelligence, nor do you have the right to berate me.
Confucius Says:
It is better to be thought an a**hole, than to open ones mouth and remove all doubt.
But you did imply ! I suspect the control valve/solenoid? but have no idea how to test it ! I refuse to get it to a battle of words with an unarmed person !
You are correct - I did ask how to test it - simply to confirm it was operating properly and eliminate it from the equation. That is not an implication it is a question
And you, kind sir - did you explain to me how to test it? NO
Do you know how to test it? Or do you have to look in your computer to find the answer? Which by the way is exactly what I am trying to do.
My questions to you are
A: Do you know how to test it or not?
B: Do you know the proper nomenclature for the electric/vacuum component that controls the EGR?
C: Do you have any other suggestions that I have not already explored that could be the cause of my idle issues.
D: Is it possible that a bad O2 sensor (downstream) is the cause of the problem?
E: Is there any chance that you will stop beating on your chest and boasting about your experience and knowledge long enough to actually answer any of my questions?
Oh, by the way it's "I refuse to get into a battle of WITS with an unarmed person"
Go on you tube an check out egr testing by scanner danner ! best teacher on youtube . A picture is worth a thousand words
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