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James Jackson Posted on Dec 11, 2015
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Why is fully-charged battery too low to start within 6 hours?

Autoz gave 2 new batteries. Prob continues.Smog shop shows 02 sensor, heater, evap and cc not ready. Put in rebuilt comp last year.My scanner reads no activity in sensors.

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It is not impossible for new batteries to be at fault , check with high discharge tester, if OK there is a short circuit or something using up power such as stop lights on. to check remove the + terminal on the battery insert a amp meter current draw should be almost zero , small current draw will be from clock ECT.

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    James Jackson Dec 12, 2015

    No lights remain on anywhere. Clock would take way too little energy to cause this problem. There is one wire under the hood (very accessible) that the smog man said could be causing the problem. It is a smog only station and he does no work on the side.

  • Stan Ford Dec 13, 2015

    Do the amp meter test if the draw is very low the new batteries are faulty or not fully charged.

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