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No power to ignition coil - 2004 Suzuki Forenza

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2004 Suzuki Forenza , so say title.
what engine?, 2.0L or out side usa with 5 engines used.
power to.,.

  1. check fuses yet, that be first. (all electrics that.)
  2. scan it next to see DTC errors related to IGN COIL.????
  3. RTM , the manual is 4 bucks read that yet?


https://suzukipitstopplus.com/Products/1027-2004-forenza-service-manual.aspx

so are you saying there is no spark on all 4 cylinders.
that be first, 1 &4 dead or 2 &3 dead. (coil pack pairs, not with wires scrambled, they most not be connected WRONG)

if only 1 pair fail we have a cure.
if all 4 die, other ,,, see?
tests matter, doing all tests on wasted spark, tells you whats up.
test with 2 spark plugs. new.
shells gounded.
1 and 4
then 2 and 3. pairs.
all 4 fail, or just 1 pair? a key fact. on all wasted spark systems.


if you scan and get DTC shows, cmp dead, ckp dead or
ignitor 1 dead, well, ???? do you>?
coil pack
if pin 2 is 0v, cranking
the fuse EF10 is blown or the pump relay open.

to fix cars like this, you need the book, the schematic,
as seen here.
the ecu fires the hidden coil pack drivers.
if one plug goes open , you lose 2 cylinders
if one HV wire goes open, same.
see?
if one HV wire shorts to ground only THAT cylinder goes dead.

pin 86 is 12vdc cranking
pin 85 , the ECU grounds this pin to send power to the coil pack.
pin 30 is obvious, 12vdc all the time.

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What kind of vehicle? Make year? Just a tip: if you measure across the negative and positive terminals of the coil you will not get a voltage. Place the red lead on ghe positive side of the coil and the black lead on the negative terminal of your battery with the key on and u should have voltage.

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Sound like a ground problem; the fastest way to identify the Power and Ground Circuits is using a wiring diagram. If you don't have one you'll have to find out by trial and error as you probe each circuit.

The power circuit is tested with the Key On and Engine Off. Place one end of your multimeter or Test Light on the Battery Negative Terminal and with the other end, probe the Power Circuit. Turn the Key to the Run position. If the Power Circuit is OK, the Multimeter will show 12 Volts or the Test Light will light up. Here are the possible results:
* You got 12 Volts on the Power Circuit
Good, this is a good sign. The next step is to check the Ground Circuit of the Coil on Plug connector that you're testing.

* No Power in only one Ignition Coil
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You'll have to consult your Repair Manual's wiring diagrams to see where this fuse and/or relay is located and replace as necessary.
After replacing the blown fuse or the defective relay. Retest the Ignition Coil.

Them, the Ground Circuit is tested with the Key On or Off. It doesn't matter because this is a Chassis Ground. Place one end of your multimeter or Test Light on the Battery Positive Terminal and with the other end, probe the Ground Circuit. If the Ground Circuit is OK, the Multimeter will show 12 Volts or the Test Light will light up.

* You got Ground
Good, now the next step is to verify that the Coil-on-Plug Ignition Coil is receiving the Triggering Signal. This info belongs to the next section of this article.

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* No Ground at any Ignition Coils
This usually happens thru' human error in most cases and is a very rare thing. Usually the engine was replaced and this ground was not re-attached.
You can Ground this circuit with a jumper wire. Jumpering to Ground just one Coil-on-Plug Ignition Coil should provide Ground to all of them (consult your Repair Manual's Wiring Diagrams to be sure).
With this jumper wire to Ground attached, crank the vehicle.
If in fact the Ground Circuit does have an open short, this (the jumper wire to Ground) should make the vehicle start, or at least get the Ignition Coil to Spark.
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