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Bruce Tummons Posted on Aug 03, 2015
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05 toyota avalon 3.5l, replaced ac compressor,receiver/drier, blows cold then warm ,compressor clutch still engaged,turn off system for 2 min. turn back on,blows cold again for a awhile.

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Did you replace orifice tube?

Testimonial: "No, I did not replace the the expansion valve, it,s located inside the heater box I believe."

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  • David Harrelson
    David Harrelson Aug 03, 2015

    I assume you replaced all the rest due to a bad compressor. Trash from that failure is likely still in the system and trapped at the expansion valve.

  • Bruce Tummons
    Bruce Tummons Aug 03, 2015

    What do think I should do now, try to back flush ?

  • David Harrelson
    David Harrelson Aug 03, 2015

    If you flushed the system before changing compressor, you could try a back-flush. Otherwise, might be time to tackle the E-valve replacement. Sorry, that's bad news I know.

  • Bruce Tummons
    Bruce Tummons Aug 03, 2015

    Can a remanufactured compressor cause these problems

  • David Harrelson
    David Harrelson Aug 03, 2015

    Possibly, if it is faulty, but whenever replacing bad compressor, entire system should be flushed, drier/filter replaced, new correct type oil added, and orifice tube replaced, which on newer cars is usually in the junction where the high side line enters the heater/air box.

  • Bruce Tummons
    Bruce Tummons Aug 03, 2015

    If it was the expansion valve,wouldn't it not work at all and me turn the system off, then on and work good again for awhile seems weird

  • Bruce Tummons
    Bruce Tummons Aug 03, 2015

    Does my car have a office tube and where is it

  • Bruce Tummons
    Bruce Tummons Aug 04, 2015

    David Harrelson, you didn't answer my last 2 questions

  • David Harrelson
    David Harrelson Aug 04, 2015

    My thought is that if trash is in the system, when you turn it off that trash may let loose and move away from orifice tube or expansion valve and then when you restart it takes time to collect and block the flow again. I'm not sure this is so, just a thought. Don't know for sure if yours has an orifice tube, but I thought all newer cars are using this now, instead of an expansion valve. If you have one, it should be located inside the high side pipe at the junction to the heater box under the hood. These can be difficult to remove, so I usually insert a screw and then extract with vise grips.

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5. Check Temperature Control Vents - The vents inside your car are controlled by a cable, electrical servo or vacuum servo. If the temperature blend door is not functioning properly it will cause warm air from the heater to exit the vents. To check this start the car and allow the engine idle, next turn the blower motor speed on low, switch the temperature control from warm to cold while your ear is close to the vents. You should hear the door move inside the heater box as it swings from open to close. If not, insect for a vacuum leak or a shorted motor in the servo, repair the leak or replace the servo motor...

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