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04 Altima 2.5 s w 150k changed cat 2014 1 yr later p0420 code again what r normal reads for 02 sensors? reads @ idle fluctuate @ .3V b1 sensor & .8V b2 sensor.anyone had p0420 that wasnt a bad cat

Changed Cat and pre cat in Feb 2014 Changed 4 Sparks in july 2014 Changed 2 coil packs in july 2014 changed coil pack connector in sept 2014 due to open connection causing p0304 code changed gasket between cat and resonator last month. Things still to do: Change Valve cover smoke test check for oil in spark check cat efficiency

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Those cars are notorious for engine problems unfortunately. The exhaust valves tend to warp from heat after around 200k miles. Therefore throwing the O2 codes. Best outcome and cost effective thing I can recommend is replacing the engine with a new or low mileage engine.

Testimonial: "Ok guys sorry for the long delay. I have figured out in the time i spent messing around that it was a couple of things that gave me trouble. _________________P0420 Code_____________________ 1. bank 1 o2 sensor was bad 2. there was a crack in the exhaust pipe _________Misfire or random misfire code_________ 3. I also had oil on the coil pack that eventually gave me the P0303 code. 4. Valve Cover was bad 5. Alternator failed 6. Spark tube seals are bad _____________Things Im still not sure of________ 7. Smoke from the tailpipe (once every 2 weeks) but just cleared itself up (??) 8. Oil soaked coil pack #4 (no malfunctions) not sure why there is oil there. 9. rattling at low rpms (could be a heat shield) 10. P0420 code still crops up. No performance related issues present (is it stuck in the system)"

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  • Posted on Mar 14, 2009

SOURCE: 2003 grand am 3.4 code p0304

More likely a plugged injector as that code is specific to cylinder # 3 These engines are also very prone to failed intake manifold gaskets and stuck valve lifters. I think I'd start with a compression test, if that's good, go injector. If the compression is bad, you've got a can of worms. Hold off on the O2, I don't think it's related.

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SOURCE: service engine light comes on , p0420 code

the light can be caused by any one or combination of over 200 trouble codes, go to any kragen or Autozone parts store and ask for a trouble code test, it is free, then record the code(s) they come up with and post them back on fixya

Anonymous

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  • Posted on Aug 25, 2009

SOURCE: No spark from coil pack

The most common reasons for them going out are not using dielectric grease properly when installing, and from washing your engine.

I believe this was a huge issue with Volkswagen vehicles

Anonymous

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  • Posted on Nov 19, 2009

SOURCE: 2003 chev malibu wont start due to lack of spark

That car has 2 crank sensors , did you replace both? One is at the front crank pulley and the other is behind and low on the engine block, above oil pan. Be sure the ICM (ign control module has a good ground, (black wire) it grounds at a bracket where the trans bolts to the engine approx at the 2 o'clock position.

Testimonial: "the check the ground was a good suggestion, i will do that at my first opportunity"

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  • Posted on Jan 19, 2010

SOURCE: 04 Pontiac Vibe bad gas mileage without a code and then the p0420

that code is from having the plugs wires reversed as you did and the o2 senors regrsitered the overload on gas emmions once you remove the battery cables for about 5 minutes and then recconect and run the engine it should be okay

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How to fix error code P0140 on my chrysler concorde 1996 vehicle? Neither Rich Or Lean Condition Is Detected From The Oxygen Sensor 1/2 ?

that is not the OEM makers statement on P0401.
truth is this. V6 engine? 3.3L and 3.5L???????
o2 sensor circuit no activity detected bank 1 sensor 2)
means the right rear 02 sensor reads dead.

right bank down stream 02 is dead.

and has zero to to with rich or lean, it is the rear sensor 2.
the rear sensors are only to this bank1 CAT for good quality.
not told at all , what engine is there. v6 sure,3.3 or 3.5L
nor how the engine runs and car drives. ?
or if this is ONLY a smog question and check engine lamp glows?
causes of 401 are
wires to right rear 02 cut burned or damaged , loose or fell off 02.
bad o2 B1,S2 rear of cat bad
bad CAT bank1,
exhaust cracks in CAT sucking air and making any 02 sensor to read dead, near it.
this post ASSUMES , no other DTC errors stored or live running,
assumes scanned LTFT PID reads correctly and no B1S1 02 errors.(front sensor)
bank 1 or B1 is right front engine bank. (drivers view)
facing engine is left bank. (workers viewed)
ASSSMEs car is driven plenty not just parked in an old barn.
A DRIVEN CAR !

SMog tests fail too for monitor cat bank1 dead.
or incomplete status on bank1 cat.
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P0172 and P0175 after replacement of cats and rebuilt injectors

Possible solutions include: Inspect all vacuum and PCV hoses, replace if necessary Clean the MAF sensor. Consult your service manual for it's location if you need help. I find it's best to take it off and spray it with electronics cleaner or brake cleaner. Make sure you are careful not to damage the MAF sensor, and make sure it's dry before reinstalling Inspect fuel lines for cracks, leaks, or pinches Check the fuel pressure at the fuel rail Check the fuel injectors, they may be dirty. Use fuel injector cleaner or get them professionally cleaned/replaced. Check for an exhaust leak before the first oxygen sensor (this is unlikely to cause the problem, but it is possible)

Read more at: http://www.obd-codes.com/p0175
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2003 impala. Hard starts and fumes smell.

this is what i found for you

The catalytic converter has an oxygen sensor in front and behind it. When the vehicle is warm and running in closed loop mode, the upstream oxygen sensorwaveform reading should fluctuate. The downstream O2 sensoricon1.png reading should be fairly steady. Typically the P0420 code triggers the Check Engine Light if the readings of the two sensors are similar. This is indicative of (among other things) a converter that is not working as efficiently as it should be (according to specs). It is part of the vehicle emissions system.

Most likely, the aftermarket cat they installed is a high flow cat. This commonly causes issues with throwing that code on our cars. You can either have an OE cat installed, or just have the code deleted from the PCM by someone that has a tuner.
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I have a 2000 tacoma 3.4l with double cats bought from california. I am throwing a P0420 code. Would that mean that my cats would be bad or the O2 sensor?

the code itself is for catalyst efficiency. however, the cats are monitored by the 02s. there should be some basic diagnostics performed on the 02 sensors before condemning the cats. monitoring with a scan tool, your front (bank 1) sensors should rapidly switch from .2V - .8V . this indicates that the engine is operating correctly. if the cats are functioning correctly, the rear (bank 2) sensor readings should remain fairly steady, aprox. .4V . this indicates the cat is working. if the rear 02's are a mirror image (or close to) of the front 02 readings, this indicates the cats are not performing their job, the 02's are functioning correctly, and replacing the cats will fix your problem. good luck!
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01 sienna with p0420 not sure if its the cat. or the o2

Hi,
This code occurs very very frequently on these vans. I have come across probably 50 or more in the past few years and to date I have not had a single one that was an O2 sensor and NOT throwing any other code than P0420.

Unfortunately, the only way to verify 100% is to read the sensor output with a scan tool capable of live-data playback. If you have access to one, you want to verify activity on the rear O2 sensor on the firewall side (Bank 1 Sensor 2). Under normal conditions you should have activity on the sensor that varies with gas pedal input, but does NOT exceed 20% of the front sensor value (Bank 1 Sensor 1).
If the sensor is stuck at a particular higher voltage (ie, 400mv) and does not vary at all, it will trip the P0420 code but is most likely a stuck O2 sensor.
If the sensor reacts normally to gas pedal input, and reads normally (ie 20-X00mv fluctuations with pedal input) and does exceed 20% of the front sensor value, the catalytic converter is failed.
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04 Pontiac Vibe bad gas mileage without a code and then the p0420

that code is from having the plugs wires reversed as you did and the o2 senors regrsitered the overload on gas emmions once you remove the battery cables for about 5 minutes and then recconect and run the engine it should be okay
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Receiving engine code p0420 on my 2005 altima 2.5 s

A p0420 code indicates a Catalytic System efficiency failure, Bank 1.
Basically, the computer is seeing reduced efficiency of the catalytic converter or one of it's components (such as an 02 sensor)

There may be a few root causes, such as a faulty oxygen sensor, faulty coolant temperature sensor, faulty converter, Large exhaust leak, or retarded (slow) timing.
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Pulled code p0420 on 99 chevy astro, 2wd, v6

from what i am finding the code means o2 sensors. they recommend replacing them and if this does not work than replacing the cat converter

The catalytic converter has an oxygen sensor in front and behind it. When the vehicle is warm and running in closed loop mode, the upstream oxygen sensor waveform reading should fluctuate. The downstream O2 sensor reading should be fairly steady. Typically the P0420 code triggers the Check Engine Light if the readings of the two sensors are similar. This is indicative of (among other things) a converter that is not working as efficiently as it should be (according to specs). It is part of the vehicle emissions system.

causes

A code P0420 may mean that one or more of the following has happened:
  • Leaded fuel was used where unleaded was called for
  • An oxygen sensor is not reading (functioning) properly
  • The engine coolant temperature sensor is not working properly
  • Damaged or leaking exhaust manifold / catalytic converter / exhaust pipe
  • Retarded spark timing
  • The oxygen sensors in front and behind the converter are reporting too similar of readings
possible soloutions

Some suggested steps for troubleshooting a P0420 code include:
  • Check for exhaust leaks at the manifold, pipes, catalytic converter. Repair as required.
  • Use a scope to diagnose the oxygen sensor operation (Tip: The oxygen sensor in front of the catalytic converter normally has a fluctuating waveform. The waveform of the sensor behind the converter should be more steady).
  • Inspect the downstream heated oxygen sensor (HO2), replace if necessary
  • Replace the catalytic converter
One thing to note is that many vehicle manufacturers offer a longer warranty on emissions-related parts. So if you have a newer car but it's out of it's bumper-to-bumper warranty, there still may be warranty on this type of problem. Many manufacturers give a five year, unlimited mileage warranty on these items. It's worth checking into.


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Want to change the O sensors

I would definitely go with the Bosch brand and there are only two oxygen sensors.  One before and one after the catalytic converter.  As far as how hard they are to change out I don't know on your particular vehicle.  Here in the states you can borrow a tool from your auto parts store to help you take it out but I don't know if that would be available to you.  I just did the sensors in my father's Isuzu Trooper with a 22 mm wrench.  If you can get access to them, they are easy to change.  Just unscrew and screw them back in.  
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Code P0420

P0420 Catalyst System Efficiency Below Threshold (Bank 1)

There is one 02 sensor in front of the catalytic converter (called upstream), and one behind it (downstream). When the engine is warmed up and running normally the upstream oxygen sensor reading fluctuates and the downstream one is fairly steady. In the case where both readings are fairly steady, a P0420 check engine light code is set.

Possible Causes:
Oxygen (O2) sensor not working correctly
Damaged or leaking exhuast (pipe, manifold, catalytic converter)
Damaged catalytic converter
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