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Posted on Jul 05, 2009

A190 front side window stuck in half open position

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I have a front side window stuck in a half open position. Rear windows work fine. Left front window does not move either (but is currently closed). There is no motor sound (on both front windows) if I press the relevant window buttons. The problem came up after the battery was totally discharged (I left a park light on).

Any ideas on how to fix this problem?

My A190 Mercedes is from 2000.

Thanks, Kaspar.
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  • Anonymous Mar 23, 2014

    left rear window stuck half open but all other work from their own switch but not from master switch

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Hi. The Front windows are on a seperate fuse from the rear and this MAY be your problem. the fuse for the front windows is fuse No 33 - 30amp. (that’s the fourth fuse from the left / centre row, the fuses are numbered) The Rear window fuse is No 42 just for information.

If the battery has been discharged you MUST!!! Reset the Power Windows and Traction control. It's very simple and the instructions are in your driver’s manual. But just in case you don’t have it, here they are:

Resetting the side Power Windows
If the voltage supply is interrupted (battery disconnected or flat), the side windows must be reset to prevent injury to driver or passengers:

  1. Turn the key to position 2 in the ignition lock.
  2. Press on the switches to the (Up or Closed position) pressure point until the windows are fully up, and hold for approximately 1 second.
Resetting the ESP (Electronic Stability Program or “Traction Control Systems”)
If the voltage supply is interrupted (battery disconnected or flat), the indicator lamp will light up while the engine is running.
  1. Turn the steering wheel from stop to stop while the engine is running. The indicator lamp will go out & the ESP system is reset.
If you need a copy of all the fuse values and locations etc. Post a reply here at FixYa with your email address and I will forward you a schematic diagram……..[did one for myself that’s easier to understand / follow than the Merc one]

Hope this helps!!!!

  • www_cd_macha Dec 02, 2010

    hey man. im having a problem like that also. my pass and driverside window seat and mirrors arent working i replaced the front door control modules and they worked for a day or two and then stopped. im trying to see what relay it is but have no clue.. i would really appreciate if you can help me out.. [email protected].. god bless you man!!!!

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