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On a 1998 Olsmobile silhouette on start up all warning indicators go off. When vehicle is driven low traction indicator illuminates then extinguishes. Then TCS and ABS warning indicators come on and s

TCS & ABS warning indicators go off and then come on and stay on while driving - brake pedal seems lower than usual

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Have the OBD codes read , sounds like low brake fluid or the brake pads need replacing, the OBD codes will tell you where to get started

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    Dave Brownburg Oct 11, 2014

    Will check. Thank you and get back to you.

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Anonymous

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  • Posted on Feb 07, 2009

SOURCE: 2001 oldsmobile silhouette traction corntol is off and ABS light

I agree with the post about the tail lights. And the symptom about the brakes on when starting was also helpful. When I took off my rear tail lights and removed the top light bulb (top of the 4 is closest to connector) then repeat starting the car the problem is gone. I have a whole drawer of these bulbs that I removed, not because the filament was burned out, but because the base (similar to circuit card edge connector) had heat damage and melted. I am not sure exactly what the problem is but I think there are multiple conductors in the fixture which are too close or get moisture shorts. Anyway I hypothesize the circuit for daytime running lights is leaking current into the brake light circuit, and it causes that module that controls traction control and ABS to declare a fault. When you start with foot on the brakes the brake lamp is pulled on (I don't know if switches hi or lo) so that module doesn't declare the fault until you release the brakes.

I put in new bulbs and it works fine for now, but I know it may reappear some day then I will repeat, disassembly of the fixtures and inspect bulb bases for heat damage and clean out and replace. That is what did the trick for me.

Thanks Fixya and all contributors

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SOURCE: 1998 Olds 88 LS is using excessive amounts of

check your vaccum booster diaphram

Anonymous

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  • Posted on Jun 07, 2010

SOURCE: my brake light, ABS light and TCS light all appear

The brake light may be on because of low fluid.The traction control is on because the abs light is on.System requires the abs to be actively working for traction control to work.The most common cause of this is a wheel speed sensor which on this vehicle is part of the bearing hub assembly.You will need a scan tool to locate where the fault is in the abs system.

john h

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  • Posted on Jul 21, 2010

SOURCE: 1999 Oldsmobile silhouette brake light and tcs

check the abs sensors common to hit or damage the wiring or knock connection loose when doing a brake job the traction control system[tcs] is tied into the abs system

Anonymous

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  • Posted on Sep 27, 2010

SOURCE: 1999 Olds Silhouette -- Problem -

In your case, there a lot of meaning about ABS light problem. But the sulotion is go to the nearest auto parts or autozone, they scan your car for free of chage and they will give you the obd diagnose code and they can also look up on their computer to find out what is the real problem... best of luck..

Ginskie.

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