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Anonymous Posted on Oct 09, 2014

After diagnosis computer indicates faulty fuel pump. Sympton: Engine light comes on intermitently (light with wrench symbal) and the fuel gauge goes crazy at same timegoing from full to empty and back

At the same time a chime comes on intermitently. Mechanic said drive it until the engine misbehaves in any matter??? I believe the code comes up P170

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That's a fuel system lean po170, that would let me to believe its a fuel pump and or sending unit ,be sure to check ground wires

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Greg Mills

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  • Posted on Aug 27, 2009

SOURCE: 2002 Chevy Suburban: Fuel gauge reads empty, tank is half full

Youre gauge is controlled by a plunger in the fuel tank which is attached to the sensor and the fuel gauge. it sounds like when the plunger goes down half way its either getting stuck down lower then it should. Needs replacing. Any mechanic can do this install for you.

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david mcclellan

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  • Posted on Sep 08, 2009

SOURCE: Gas Gauge Problems

You will have to get the error code before the engine light goes back off. You can do this by inserting the key into the ignition, then turning the key key to the on position three times with in 5 seconds. Remember this is the on position no the start position. Once you have done this the odometer will show the error codes briefly. They will look like this "P0202, P1225, P1400. Make sure you write them down because they can go pretty quickly. Once you have the codes go to the link listed below. It will give you a brief description of what the codes mean. If you need any thing else just let me know and I'll try to help.
The first link will have jeep specific codes, the second will be codes generic to all manufacturers. Just scroll down until you see the code listings.
Good luck.

http://www.obd-codes.com/trouble_codes/dodge/

http://www.obd-codes.com/trouble_codes/

Anonymous

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  • Posted on Dec 02, 2009

SOURCE: GMC envoy after I filled gas tank the low fuel

You will need to replace the fuel level sensor which is in the fuel tank.They have a lot of problems because the metal fingers on the sensor wear off and gives you the incorrect readings.This will also cause the check engine light to come on.You will probably have a level sensor code.This will be a lot easier if the fuel level is down to about a quarter tank or less.Also you should be able to get just the level sensor and not have to get the complete fuel pump module.Good luck.

Anonymous

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  • Posted on Jul 02, 2010

SOURCE: my car fuel level gauge sometimes goes to empty

Mine too! I have a 2007 Chevy Malibu also and I knoticed it does that or bounces up and down once my tank gets to half full. Have you found a solution? Sometimes my check engine light comes on and sometimes it doesn't.

Anonymous

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  • Posted on Aug 11, 2010

SOURCE: 2003 Dodge Ram 1500 Fuel Gauge drops to empty while driving.

I have the same problem on my 2003 Dodge Ram 2500 5.7 Hemi. Also the gauge is sometimesslow to register after filling. Maybe 5 minutes.My neighbor has the same poblem with his 1999 Durango? I think this is a job for a recall.

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1st check the #4 fuse (10A) and #10 fuse (7.5A) on the 'under-dash' fuse block.
then #9 fuse (10A) on the 'engine bay' fuse block.

if the fuses are good, the gauge assembly has has "self-diagnostic" feature.

Self-diagnostic Procedure

The gauge assembly has a self-diagnosis function.
. The beeper drive circuit check
. The indicator drive circuit check
. The LCD segments check
. The gauges drive circuit check (speedometer, tachometer, fuel gauge, coolant temperature gauge)
. The communication line check (the coolant temperature signal line between the gauge and ECM/PCM)


Entering the Self-diagnosis Function:
1. Push and hold the trip/reset button.
2. Turn the lighting switch ON.
3. Turn the ignition switch ON (ll).
4. Within 5 sec., turn the lighting switch OFF, then ON and OFF again.
5. Within 5 sec., release the trip/reset button, then push and release the button four times repeatedly.

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. While in the self-diagnosis mode, the dash lights brightness controller operates normally.
. While in the self-diagnosis mode, the trip/reset button is used to start the beeper drive circuit test and the gauge drive circuit check.
. lf the vehicle speed exceeds 1.2 mph (2 km/h) or the ignition switch is turned OFF, the self-diagnosis mode ends.

The Beeper Drive Circuit Check:
When entering the self-diagnosis mode, the beeper sounds five times.

The Indicator Drive Circuit Check:
When entering the self-diagnosis mode. the indicators lights (such as: Seat belt indicator light, Door/hatch indicator light, Brake system light. Charging system light, Low fuel indicator light, maintenance required light) blink.

The LCD Segment Check:
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The Gauge Drive Circuit Check:
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After the beeper stops sounding and the gauge needles return to the minimum position, pushing the trip/reset button, starts the beeper drive circuit check {one beep), and the gauge drive circuit check again.
The check cannot be started until the gauge needles return to the minimum position.

The Communication Line Gheck:
In the seif-diagnosis mode, after the odo/trip LCD segments check, the self-diagnosis starts the communication line check.
lf all segments comes on, the communication line is OK.
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Ending the Self-diagnosis Function:
Turn the ignition switch OFF.

Note: lf the vehicle speed exceeds 1 .2 mph (2 km/h), the self-diagnosis function ends.
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If everything works correctly during the check, check your VSS (vehicle speed sensor)



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