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Fuel filter? Traveling and vehicle has no power, idles fine, but at highway speeds gives 2 seconds of power followed by 2 seconds of deceleration. Fuel Filter? can I replace in parking lot?

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HI. this seems to be a faulty(clogged) filter but, i would also change the fuel pump as well. this is good preventive maintenance. the fuel filter can be changed in the parking lot. it is located near the fuel tank and, it is along the outer frame work, inline with the fuel lines.

You will need to separate the fuel lines on each end of the filter to release it. there will be clips on the ends of the filter that hold the fuel lines. be careful not to break these clips. it is very hard to release the fuel lines of the filter when these clips are broken.

To clarify the location of the filter, it is located Under vehicle, driver side, below seating area, front of fuel tank, mounted on frame rail in fuel line

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