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Posted on May 13, 2009

We put a motor from an automatic to a standard and we have changed everything to accomodate this thing, however the starter turns over and the dash lights come on but it will not start, any suggestions?

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Check your wiring again. I had a friend that did along the same lines in a crx. Drove the shop crazy for couple months why they couldn't crank it. When it came down to it, 2 of the wires were hooked up wrong. Sorry no specific information.

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