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david hines Posted on Dec 07, 2013
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Wont shift into 4wd automatically or manually

When i turn the knob to switch to 4x4 the light on dash doesnt indicate 4x4 nor will it engage. When i get under the truck and do it manually it makes a grinding sound until it reaches 4l or 4h. is the motor bad?

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I would say the shift actuator my have gone bad. You should check all your fuses for the four wheel drive system with a test light or voltmeter. If their all good see if you can get your hands on a scan tool to check for a code. A four wheel drive problem may not illuminate the check engine light but the computer may still store a code.

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jatncbeach

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  • Posted on Aug 06, 2009

SOURCE: 98 expedition xlt wont engage in 4h or 4l. the

one the transfer case there is a motor on the back side of the transfer case. most of the time that goes bad. if you don't have a trouble shooting guide with a wiring diagram, best to have a mech have a look at it. most of the time they rust and stick if not used a few times a year. best of luck.

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Anonymous

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  • Posted on Nov 25, 2008

SOURCE: 4W will not turn on ford ranger 1999 4x4

that clicking sound you no longer hear is a relay switch behind dashboard ....aftermarket one's sold at all chain auto parts stores

Anonymous

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  • Posted on Feb 05, 2009

SOURCE: elec 4 wheel drive light comes on but 4x4 not engaging

change the 2 solenoids on the firewall on the passenger side. they contol the vacum to the acuator.

Anonymous

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  • Posted on Dec 12, 2009

SOURCE: my 2001 f150 super crew won't shift from 2wd to 4h

Best to check by jacking the truck up ( taking safety precautions, parking brake, chock the wheels, jack stands, etc ), turn the key to the run position and place into 4WD.
If the front drive shaft turns, the problem is in the transfer case.
If the front drive shaft does not turn, the problem is in the front axle.

I would suspect the front shaft does not turn, and the most common cause of this is the vacuum motor on the front axle, the vacuum lines to it, or the vacuum solenoids.
The vacuum shift motor is what locks the front wheels in, and without this action, the PM does not get the confirm that the truck is good to go, and illuminate the cluster indicators ( 4x4, and if 4L the Low Range lamps ).
There are 2 vacuum solenoids, one is 4WD one is 2WD ( to move the motor one way or the other ).
Start with checking for vac on the vacuum motor ( actually it is a diaphragm ). The pink line should have vacuum when in 4WD, the blue line should have vacuum when in 2WD. If not, time to work back towards the solenoids. Use a short length of hose on the vacuum solenoids, and retest.
If still missing vacuum on the 4WD solenoid, I would suspect it is bad, but best to test on the other side of it, to make sure the vacuum reservoir ( mounted behind the battery box ) is supplying vacuum to the solenoids.

This is just the most common cause, best to confirm with the 1st test above, to know if you should look to the trans case, or axle.

This is what the vacuum shift motor looks like on the front axle
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These are the vacuum shift solenoids
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Testimonial: "Thank you for your help.I was working on it this morning and found alot of moister in the vacuum shift motor. "

Anonymous

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  • Posted on Jun 15, 2012

SOURCE: 97 expedition - 4x4 does not engage

the first thing i would check on any 4x4 AWD is to see if the vacume lines
were conected to the transfor case and getting vacume when engaded i have found this to be the
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4WD does not operate, no lite, no anything

Check out the knob. The backside may be cracked and the knob may be slipping around the shaft instead of turning it.

Some models had a problem with the indicator light for the 4x4. If the light burns out, the electric values to the transfer case shift solenoid will change. The single solenoid moves different lengths based on selector position and voltage.

Check the Voltage at the transfer case with power on and someone turning the shift knob.

You can get wiring diagrams through a Google search. Use terms like "2006 F150 wiring diagrams" or similar. Some are really good but be careful with "snapshot" groups as they are not strongly indexed and results contain mixed Brands and years.
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Ok, this is probably going to sound greek if you have no automotive experiance, so here goes:

There are 2 possibilities I can think of at the moment depending on your 4wd system, however there are several things that can cause this

If you have a Push button 4wd (you push a button or turn a knob) the system engages using actuators or sylinoids meening you turn the 4wd on, the switch sends power to the selector option (high and low) and the 4wd light on the dash. the selector determines where the actuator/silenoid engages (either high or low) in the transfer case. However the actuator or silenoid can be faulty and yet the system will say 4wd is on because the switches still sending power to the 4x4 light

The next setup is the manual linkage set up, and given the year of your kia I doubt you have this setup However I am going to go through it anyway.

With a maual linkage setup you engage the trasfer case maualy using the 4wd shifter. Ironically on newer manual shift 4wd systems the dash light is still triggered electrically by location of the shifter not what is going on in the transfer case (Ah a flaw in the design) So if you linkage is loose/bent/damaged or somehow disconnected your 4wd wont engage but the light will still show that it is! Hope this helps
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