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Brake pedal soft

2009 Dodge Journey came in with very soft brake pedal, tried bleeding system, to get slightly better. Customer ok'd a master, R&R master and re-bled, nice pedal UNTIL engine starts, goes soft...SVC MGR of Chrysler said its the booster, replaced booster, still same pedal..WILL a ABS scanner bleed then re-bleed base system cure this BEFORE I send it to dealer ???

  • Josh Martin
    Josh Martin Apr 25, 2019

    Dodge journey rear calipers will not always automatically adjust after compressing them all the way to change pads. One or both of the Pistons retracts all the way creating slack. If you're able to jiggle the brake pads or rotors the caliper piston needs to be turned counter-clockwise until there's no slack but hub is still allowed to turn.

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You still have air in the brake system and this becomes evident when the operation of the booster allows the pedal to do down as it is compressing the air in the lines more efficiently than what you can do with your foot. Try starting the bleeding procedure but undoing the lines at the master cylinder and priming the unit first to get the air out of both sides of the unit. Tighten the lines and with the help of a assistant start at the longest line first and work back to the shortest. Booster failure will result in no assistance or engine stopping from a massive vacuum leak when the valves are opened. The abs is just a motor driven pump that supplies pressure to the brake system when the wheel sensors come into operation otherwise the brake pedal pressure is operating through the ABS unit to the brakes. (An ABS is only there to keep the brake pressure constant as the sensor opens and closes a valve to stop the wheel skidding . If it is not working then pressure from the pedal may bleed back leaving you with no brakes.)

Testimonial: "Thanks Bill, I do know for fact there are SUM chrysler vehicles that require a ABS bleed procedure done in the MIDDLE of the brake bleed procedure...first bleed the base system, then use scanner and operate ABS system and perform the ABS bleed thing w/ scanner, then bleed a second time of the base system again...I KNOW when i worked for chrysler i did this to one vehicle, but dont remember which one...either way, new master, new booster, bled the hell outta system, and STILL soft pedal....."

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