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93 convertible top wont go down

I have a 99 93 convertible. The hydraulic tank is full now...it was empty and now it wont put the top down. Th pump runs then shuts down after a few seconds. Any ideas on how to trouble shoot?

  • john_mudgett May 01, 2009

    Ok - the advise makes sense - any idea where the bleeder might be on a 1999 SAAB 93?

  • Anonymous Mar 16, 2014

    hydraulic pump does not function on convertible top of 66 ford fairlane

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This happenrd to me the first few times after filling the tank. When the roof stops push the switch to up then back until movement stops then go back to down, eventually it will get rid of all the air in the system and the roof should start to work.

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If the tank was empty, I would start by looking for the leak, once that is found or dismissed, then start looking for a bleeder in the hydraulics as it is likely full of air. You will have to bleed them to regain pressure, and I would suspect reset the low pressure switch which is cutting off the motor.

Hope this is of some help.
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    I do not generally work on Saab, but if I was ro hazard a guess.I would look at the hydraulic cylinders, it may be an allen head bolt on the side of the cylinder. If not with the cylinder compressed, loosen the hydraulic line it the cylinder or Cylinders, operate the system, the fluid wild be foamy, or straight air. Keep an eye on the tank. repeat process until fluid is normal looking.



    Hope this is of some help.

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2002 SAAB 9.3 CONERTIBLE TOP WONT GO DOWN

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