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Engine Coolant Code p0217

Code reads P0217. Replaced ECT Sensor two weeks ago and check engine light (CEL) went out. CEL illuminated again yesterday (10/8/13) 10 mins after engine start in the morning going 55mph slightly down a hill with outside air temp (OAT) 68 degrees. No sysmtoms before or after CEL illuminated. Temp gauge normal; A/C was On and working; Coolant levels normal; No loss of power; Radiator 2yrs old. Where should I start troubleshooting? ECT Module? Thermostate? Water Pump? A/C condenser?

  • Chris
    Chris Oct 28, 2014


    Thanks for the feedback. It turns out that I didn't properly vent the system after tinkering around with the coolant levels. All I needed to do was run the heater on high as the system circulated until all trapped gases were removed.

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P0217. (throwing parts) that is $$$
2004
The ECU sees overheating , that can be TRUE, or false
the ECU is stupid and can only see the sensor and believes it.

http://engine-codes.com/p0217.html

where to begin, well its called a scan tool
you plot the ECT and see if it is going high,
easy huh?
the dash temperature guage is just a toy, it is seperate toy , too boot. if it does not show over heat or bouncing , then ignore it.

there are only 2 possibliites, here.
1: it is overheating or just for a few seconds, DYNAMICALLY
2; or the ECT is fibbing. (sure its wires)
2 possibles !
the key is finding out which it is.
the scan tool will show you , (be ,that the ECT in fact does show overheat. you can be sure it does, see my logic, ?)
no? well the ECU saw it , but you failed to look !

see light blue line here, that is bad sluggish thermostat.
if you ECT shows a glitch at any time. above say 215F
the FSM covers this rule on the 217 page, read that.
if it glitches high , it was an overheat.
even air below the thermsat can do that
or some bumpkin put it in upside down or with the bleed hole
in the wrong direction
or any of 10 other failures. overheating can be caused by vast number of reasons. i can list them all, but will not.
first scan the ECT , report what you saw and we CAN fix it.
if the ECT glitchs to insane temps, the wire fell off, or is corroded.
knowing glitch actual level, speaks VOLUMES to good tech.

http://www.fixkick.com/my96-16v/TP-MAF-VSS-ECT-FUEL.JPG

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Need to check the plug for the ect sometimes you can buy a defected sensor

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SOURCE: car starts to overheat

Hi

It certainly sounds like a faulty thermostat, and I have to say, I'm shocked that the dealer just cleaned and reinstalled the old one, he should have fitted a new one.

My first port of call with this one would be to fit a new thermostat.

Very best regards

Geordie

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Anonymous

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SOURCE: Temperature gauge problem on a 1987 Samurai

There's two sending units in the intake. The little on with single prong at the t-stat housing is for the guage and the bigger one plastic connector is for ecm.

Your signal is getting grounded somewhere.

Anonymous

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  • Posted on Sep 17, 2009

SOURCE: 2002 Suzuki xl7 Mysterious Overheating Issue

Most Suzukis A/C systems will cut out when the engine tempurature is too high (to reduce the load on the engine). Also, in this condition, when the A/C compressor cuts out, the A/C thermo fan (electric - in front of the condensor) may come on ( to try and cool the engine). Combined with the fact that your temp gage says the engine is hot, I would be checking your cooling system very closely. It could be as simple as leaves blocking the air flow through the radiator (between the condensor and radiator), or as serious as the internal cores of the radiator being blocked (different sorts of coolant being used can sometimes produce solid matter that can do this).

Testimonial: "Great explanation and advice to check the cooling system, specifically the radiator. Unfortunately the internal core of the radiator was blocked."

Anonymous

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SOURCE: Hi.Water temp gauge in dash board drops off normal

bad coolant temp sensor

Anonymous

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  • Posted on Jun 06, 2010

SOURCE: where is the coolant level sensor? service engine ...

coolant level sensor will be in the coolant expansion tank.

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no year car stated, no engine option size stated, now my bets are zero. the car really is pos DAEWOO.
$4 to read the fSM , for 1day
https://suzukipitstopplus.com/Products/1064-2005-forenza-reno-service-manual.aspx
read it.
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Engine Coolant Over Temperature
Number of Trips to Set Code: 1
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Engine is running. Engine coolant temperature is higher than 50 C (122 F). Intake Air Temperature (IAT) is higher than 35 C (95 F). Engine soak time is higher than 360 minutes, or start-up coolant temperature is less than 45 C (113 F). Engine Coolant Temperature (ECT) sensor reading is greater than 107 C (224.6 F).
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p0217 means overheated.
and when overheated power is lost. stop that or burn up the engine.
do the service on engine, 60,000 miles. steps.
and a new thermostat. i bet yours is 10 years old,,huh and END of life.
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FSM data.
Trouble Code Conditions:
Engine is running. Engine coolant temperature is higher than 50 Deg C (122 deg F). Intake Air Temperature (IAT) is higher than 35 deg C (95 deg F). Engine soak time is higher than 360 minutes, or start-up coolant temperature is less than 45 deg C (113 deg F). Engine Coolant Temperature (ECT) sensor reading is greater than 107 deg C (224.6 deg F).
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the fsm skips bad thermostat. odd that... huh"?
and dead cooling fans.
and clogged radiator.
etc.
the first step is to see if it really is overheated, with a IR pyro gun.
if not, the ECT is bad
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simple , the sensor lied, (nah) or did overheat.

or air pockets at the ECT, low coolant actual.
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