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Anonymous Posted on Feb 26, 2018

I have a 2004 suburban with power fold, heat, signal and memory. The mirror itself leaked out some type of fluid (I am guessing used for the heating of the mirror) can I just replace the mirror portion or do I need to replace the whole mirror assembly? And you know an idea of the cost?

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SOURCE: BROKEN DRIVER SIDE VIEWING MIRROR 2007 SILVERADO LT

As far as I know, there glass replacements that you can glue right int old unit. You will have to check if they make one for your application though.

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  • Posted on Jun 22, 2009

SOURCE: need to replace Mirror Assembly, 03 suburban

Your going to have to remove the inside door panel to get to the three bolts that hold the out side mirror assembly. Once you have the door panel off you'll see the three bolts that hold the mirror assembly, just un-bolt and un-clip the wire harness to the electric/heated mirror. To install the new mirror assembly, just do everything in reveres. Go to Auto Zone and by extra door panel clips, there is a good chance of breaking some of the retainer clips and Auto Zone will have the step by step instructions to replacing the mirror assembly and the removal to the door panel. Good luck and keep me posted. Be glad to help.

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  • Posted on Dec 30, 2009

SOURCE: I need to know how to replace the side mirror on

Well, technically you dont have to remove the door panel to remove the outside door mirror. At the top of the door panel, at the front of the door, there is a triangle shaped plastic cover. It's held in place with push clips, so pull that cover off and remove the foam insulation and you'll be able to access the 3 nuts that hold the mirror to the door. The only potential problem could be in unplugging the wiring harness. I use a hooked pick to pull up the harness to unplug it.

Anonymous

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  • Posted on Jun 30, 2010

SOURCE: replace mirror

I apologize if this is insulting but heated mirrors were an option in this model and unless you specified a heated mirror when obtaining the replacement part then you may have a mirror that eventhough the plugs (connections) fit, it doesnt ahve a heating element to warm the mirror itself. Do you on the glass surface of the mirror have a box with waves coming out of top of it or some resemblance of such. This indicates heat and thus the presence of a heated mirror assembly. Otherwise you will need to check your invoice if you purchased from a parts provider. If you obtained from a used parts location (junk yard) you may have gotten a cosmetic similar model that doesnt have all the functionality of your previous mirror.

Anonymous

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  • Posted on Nov 15, 2010

SOURCE: cracked drivers side heated signal mirror for

Most heated mirrors on vehicles are made together. In other words, just replacing the mirror may or may not fix your problem. It would be more economical to purchase the entire assembly and replace it.

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the FSM cover all tests for the mirror, including scan data.

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front door. If OK, go to Step 3. If not OK, go to Step 6.
(3) Disconnect and isolate the battery negative
cable. Remove the trim panel from the front door.
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2007 gmc heated mirror module

Could have a DDS an PDS .depends on what RPO code yours has >
Outside Mirror Description and Operation (with RPO DL3)
Or
Outside Mirror Description and Operation (without RPO DL3)
Without
Heated Outside Rearview Mirror Operation
The REAR DEFOG relay controls the operation of the heated outside rearview mirrors. When rear window defogging is requested, the REAR DEFOG relay is energized and B+ is applied to the supply voltage circuit of the mirror heater element, located in the mirror face. A constant ground is also applied to the mirror face. Current will pass through the mirror heater element, warming the mirror, so long as the rear window defogger is commanded ON.

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• Driver Door Switch (DDS)--An electronic control module with integrated switches and requires programming when replaced
• Passenger Door Switch (PDS)--An electronic control module with integrated switches, requires programming when replaced
• Power Mirror Direction Switch--Integrated into DDS and is a four position momentary switch that provides a signal input to the DDS for up, down, left/extend and right/retract with a mirror switch activation
• Mirror Select Switch--Integrated into DDS and is a three position switch that allows the operator to select the left or right mirror and also a neutral/fold position
• Mirror Extend/Retract Switch--Integrated into DDS and is a two position switch that allows the operator to select the mirror extend or mirror retract position
• Left Outside Power Mirror--Contains both the vertical and horizontal mirror motors
• Right Outside Power Mirror--Contains both the vertical and horizontal mirror motors
• Body Control Module--An electronic control module that requires programming when replaced, serves as the power mode master and is the main message handler
• Horizontal and Vertical Position Sensors, if equipped with memory mirrors--Supplied a 5-volt and low reference by the DDS/PDS and provide a variable voltage signal to the DDS/PDS that is proportional to mirror position
• Folding Mirror Motor, in each of the outside mirrors, if equipped with power fold mirrors--Provides extend and retract movements of the mirror and is serviced as a complete mirror assembly
Your best bet mite be to take to a qualified repair shop , i really don't think you'll be able to do anything with it.
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Power Mirror System
Power Mirror System Components
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• Driver Door Switch (DDS)--An electronic control module with integrated switches and requires programming when replaced
• Passenger Door Switch (PDS)--An electronic control module with integrated switches, requires programming when replaced
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• Mirror Select Switch--Integrated into DDS and is a 3 position switch that allows the operator to select the left or right mirror and also a neutral/fold position
• Left Outside Power Mirror--Contains both the vertical and horizontal mirror motors
• Right Outside Power Mirror--Contains both the vertical and horizontal mirror motors
• Body Control Module--An electronic control module that requires programming when replaced, serves as the power mode master and is the main message handler
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• Horizontal and Vertical Position Sensors, if equipped with memory mirrors--Supplied a 5-volt and low reference by the DDS/PDS and provide a variable voltage signal to the DDS/PDS that is proportional to mirror position
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• Driver Information Center (DIC), if equipped with memory mirrors--Part of the instrument cluster which is a an electronic control module that requires programming when replaced and is used to personalize the memory recall functions
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DTC B1023
Circuit/System Description
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• The power mirror direction switch--Integrated into DDM and is a 4-position momentary switch that provides a signal input to the DDM for up, down, left/extend and right/retract with a mirror switch activation
• The mirror select switch--Integrated into DDM and is a 3-position switch that allows the operator to select the left or right mirror and also a neutral/fold position
• The left outside power mirror--Contains both the vertical and horizontal mirror motors and is serviced as a complete mirror assembly
• The right outside power mirror--Contains both the vertical and horizontal mirror motors and is serviced as a complete mirror assembly
• The body control module--Class 2 module that requires programming when replaced, serves as the power mode master and is the main message handler
• The DDM 10A fuse--Located in the I/P fuse block and is hot at all times
• The PDM 10A fuse--Located in the I/P fuse block and is hot at all times
• The memory switch, if equipped with memory mirrors--Supplied power by the DDM and provides a voltage signal to the DDM upon a switch activation
• The horizontal and vertical position sensors, if equipped with memory mirrors--Supplied a 5-volt and low reference by the DDM/PDM and provide a variable voltage signal to the DDM/PDM that is proportional to mirror position
• The park neutral position switch, if equipped with memory mirrors--Provides transmission gear selection information to the PCM and is used for memory recall and mirror tilt in reverse functions
• The powertrain control module, if equipped with memory mirrors--Class 2 module that requires programming when replaced and provides Class 2 message indicating transmission gear selection
• The driver information center (DIC), if equipped with memory mirrors--Part of the instrument cluster which is a Class 2 module that requires programming when replaced and is used to personalize the memory recall and mirror tilt in reverse functions
• Fold motor in each of the outside mirrors, if equipped with power fold mirrors--Provides extend and retract movements of the mirror and is serviced as a complete mirror assembly
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DTC B1722
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My side mirros dont work

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  • are of a foldaway design.
  • may contain turn signal indicators.
  • may be heated when the heated back window glass is activated.
  • may have a programmable recall memory option.
Driver Seat Module
The power driver seat and power exterior mirrors are controlled by the driver seat module (DSM) only when the vehicle is equipped with the programmable/recall memory option.
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Power Exterior Mirror Operation
The power exterior mirrors are controlled by the DSM and are operational all the time, whether the ignition switch is on or off. Using the power exterior mirror switch, the driver can adjust the driver and passenger exterior mirrors four ways.
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Visual Inspection Chart Mechanical Electrical
  • Exterior mirror(s)
  • Interior mirror
  • Central junction box (CJB) fuse
  • Circuitry
  • Exterior mirror control switch
  • Exterior mirror motor
  • Interior mirror
  • Driver seat module (DSM)
  • Memory set switch


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  1. If the vehicle is equipped with memory exterior mirrors and the concern remains after the inspection, connect the diagnostic tool to the data link connector (DLC) located beneath the instrument panel. Select the vehicle to be tested from the diagnostic tool menu.
    • Check to make sure the program card is correctly installed.
    • Check the connections to the vehicle.
    • Check the ignition switch position.
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  • The mirrors are inoperative
  • Circuitry.
  • Central junction box (CJB) fuse.
  • Exterior mirror control switch.


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Electric Mirrors do not work (Drivers & Passengers)

There are two power wires to the DDM - drivers door module .Both are orange ,one is powered by a fuse DDM fuse 15amp . in the left I/P fuse block , plus LT DOORS 25amp circuit breaker .
Power Mirror System Components
The power mirror system consists of the following components:
• The driver door module--Class 2 module with integrated switches and requires programming when replaced
• The passenger door module--Class 2 module with integrated switches, requires programming when replaced and also contains the RFA receiver
• The power mirror direction switch--Integrated into DDM and is a 4-position momentary switch that provides a signal input to the DDM for up, down, left/extend and right/retract with a mirror switch activation
• The mirror select switch--Integrated into DDM and is a 3-position switch that allows the operator to select the left or right mirror and also a neutral/fold position
• The left outside power mirror--Contains both the vertical and horizontal mirror motors and is serviced as a complete mirror assembly
• The right outside power mirror--Contains both the vertical and horizontal mirror motors and is serviced as a complete mirror assembly
• The body control module--Class 2 module that requires programming when replaced, serves as the power mode master and is the main message handler
• The DDM 10A fuse--Located in the I/P fuse block and is hot at all times
• The PDM 10A fuse--Located in the I/P fuse block and is hot at all times
• The memory switch, if equipped with memory mirrors--Supplied power by the DDM and provides a voltage signal to the DDM upon a switch activation
• The horizontal and vertical position sensors, if equipped with memory mirrors--Supplied a 5-volt and low reference by the DDM/PDM and provide a variable voltage signal to the DDM/PDM that is proportional to mirror position
• The park neutral position switch, if equipped with memory mirrors--Provides transmission gear selection information to the PCM and is used for memory recall and mirror tilt in reverse functions
• The powertrain control module, if equipped with memory mirrors--Class 2 module that requires programming when replaced and provides Class 2 message indicating transmission gear selection
• The driver information center (DIC), if equipped with memory mirrors--Part of the instrument cluster which is a Class 2 module that requires programming when replaced and is used to personalize the memory recall and mirror tilt in reverse functions
• Fold motor in each of the outside mirrors, if equipped with power fold mirrors--Provides extend and retract movements of the mirror and is serviced as a complete mirror assembly
Each of the outside power mirrors contains 2 reversible motors to provide horizontal and vertical movement of the mirror glass. The vertical motor operates the up and down directions and the horizontal motor operates the left and right directions. If equipped with power folding mirrors, each outside power mirror will contain a reversible fold motor to operate the extend and retract functions. Each of the mirror motors are circuit breaker protected.

Do you know what DTC'S are ? Diagnostic trouble codes
DTC B1544, B1600, or B1605
DTC B1580, B1590, B1610, or B1620
• If DTC B1580 is set by itself, the left horizontal position sensor signal circuit maybe open, shorted to ground or battery
• If DTC B1590 is set by itself, the left vertical position sensor signal circuit maybe open, shorted to ground or battery
• If DTC B1610 is set by itself, the right horizontal position sensor signal circuit maybe open, shorted to ground or battery
• If DTC B1620 is set by itself, the right vertical position sensor signal circuit maybe open, shorted to ground or battery.
• If DTCs B1580 and B1590 are both set, the left 5 volt reference or low reference circuit(s) maybe open, shorted to ground or battery.
• If DTCs B1610 and B1620 are both set, the right 5 volt reference or low reference circuit(s) maybe open, shorted to ground or battery.
Need a factory scan tool to test !
Install a scan tool.
Turn ON the ignition, with the engine OFF.
With the scan tool, observe the mirror horizontal and vertical position parameters in the Driver Door Module (DDM) and Passenger Door Module (PDM) data lists.
Operate both the left and right mirrors through the full range of movements.
Does the scan tool indicate that the left and right mirror horizontal and vertical position parameters are within the specified range?
0.50-4.75 V.
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