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Posted on Mar 29, 2009

Bmw 318 1996 excessive fuel and also hunting

Hello.my 318 starts fine but when left idling it starts to hunt and also uses excessive fuel.can you help please.many thanks mark

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My standard answer: O2 sensor, vacuum leak.


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