I strongly suspect a vacuum leak.. check for disconnected hoses or intake area leaking by spraying carb cleaner around those areas while idling.. if engine personality changes you are close
Here are the most common causes of idle surge, rough idle esp when cold and stalls at stops, slow idle speed, erratic idle speed, rough idle and engine hesitation (and other problems), it is in most cases the idle speed control air-bypass valve and or throttle valve and upper intake, these area's get full of gunk and combustion residue over the miles and cause idle issues (stalls, low idle) like yours, Get a can of intake cleaner from any local parts store, not carb spray, intake cleaner, it is made by a company called CRC, remove the air intake hose to the engine, hold the idle high so the engine won't stall, then spray the can of cleaner into the intake while keeping the engine running, use at least 1/2 the can, shut down the engine and disconnect the battery for 5 minutes, then restart and complete a number of mixed driving cycles, town, freeway, stop and go etc., after a few days the problem will go away as the system will relearn to the clean intake.
Car Stalls and idles low
http://technoanswers.blogspot.com/2012/10/gmc-sonoma-stalls-and-idles-low.html
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It can be issue
with IAC( idle air control valve) causing the problem.
There
are many other possibilities causing these idle issues. Engine idles rough.
There
are few help links with solutions to troubleshoot such idle issues.
I
suggest you refer the link below and follow
its troubleshooting details:------
Click
the link below:-----
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http://schematicsdiagram.blogspot.in/2012/03/stumbling-and-stalling-at-idle-after.html
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http://technoanswers.blogspot.in/2012/01/1999-ford-f-150-idles-rough-and-quits.html
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http://repairhelpcenter.blogspot.com/2012/01/engine-stumbles-coming-off-idle-when.html
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http://schematicsdiagram.blogspot.com/2011/12/erratic-idle-on-car.html
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Cold start problem and vehicle shudder around 2500 to
3500 rpms
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http://repairhelpcenter.blogspot.com/2011/12/low-idle-when-cold-out-side.html
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http://technoanswers.blogspot.com/2012/10/gmc-sonoma-stalls-and-idles-low.html
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http://schematicsdiagram.blogspot.com/2011/12/gmc-idle-air-control-iac-valve.html
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http://repairhelpcenter.blogspot.com/2011/10/1996-camry-intermittent-engine-failure.html
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http://repairhelpcenter.blogspot.com/2011/10/engine-quits-at-idle.html
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http://howtobyme.blogspot.com/2011/11/car-overheats-and-air-blows-hot-at-idle.html
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High
Idle Problem
http://repairhelpcenter.blogspot.com/2012/10/high-idle-problem.html
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http://schematicsdiagram.blogspot.com/2012/01/while-stop-engine-idles-like-cylinder.html
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http://technoanswers.blogspot.in/2012/02/idle-flair-is-noticed-on-car-rough-idle.html
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http://technoanswers.blogspot.in/2012/02/high-rpm-in-neutral-inconsistant-high.html
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http://schematicsdiagram.blogspot.in/2012/03/vehicle-stumbling-at-idle-and-shows.html
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http://technoanswers.blogspot.in/2012/03/rough-idlestaling-and-erratic-shifting.html
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http://schematicsdiagram.blogspot.com/2012/01/while-stop-engine-idles-like-cylinder.html
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These
details will help.
Thanks.
It can be issue
with IAC( idle air control valve) causing the problem.
There
are many other possibilities causing these idle issues. Engine idles rough.
There
are few help links with solutions to troubleshoot such idle issues.
I
suggest you refer the link below and follow
its troubleshooting details:------
Click
the link below:-----
-----------
http://schematicsdiagram.blogspot.in/2012/03/stumbling-and-stalling-at-idle-after.html
------------
http://technoanswers.blogspot.in/2012/01/1999-ford-f-150-idles-rough-and-quits.html
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http://repairhelpcenter.blogspot.com/2012/01/engine-stumbles-coming-off-idle-when.html
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http://schematicsdiagram.blogspot.com/2011/12/erratic-idle-on-car.html
-----------
Cold start problem and vehicle shudder around 2500 to
3500 rpms
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http://repairhelpcenter.blogspot.com/2011/12/low-idle-when-cold-out-side.html
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http://technoanswers.blogspot.com/2012/10/gmc-sonoma-stalls-and-idles-low.html
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http://schematicsdiagram.blogspot.com/2011/12/gmc-idle-air-control-iac-valve.html
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http://repairhelpcenter.blogspot.com/2011/10/1996-camry-intermittent-engine-failure.html
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http://repairhelpcenter.blogspot.com/2011/10/engine-quits-at-idle.html
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http://howtobyme.blogspot.com/2011/11/car-overheats-and-air-blows-hot-at-idle.html
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High
Idle Problem
http://repairhelpcenter.blogspot.com/2012/10/high-idle-problem.html
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http://schematicsdiagram.blogspot.com/2012/01/while-stop-engine-idles-like-cylinder.html
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http://technoanswers.blogspot.in/2012/02/idle-flair-is-noticed-on-car-rough-idle.html
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http://technoanswers.blogspot.in/2012/02/high-rpm-in-neutral-inconsistant-high.html
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http://schematicsdiagram.blogspot.in/2012/03/vehicle-stumbling-at-idle-and-shows.html
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http://technoanswers.blogspot.in/2012/03/rough-idlestaling-and-erratic-shifting.html
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http://schematicsdiagram.blogspot.com/2012/01/while-stop-engine-idles-like-cylinder.html
---------
These
details will help.
Thanks.
It can be issue
with IAC( idle air control valve) causing the problem.
There
are many other possibilities causing these idle issues.Engine idles rough.
There
are few help links with solutions to troubleshoot such idle issues.
I
suggest you refer the link below and follow
its troubleshooting details:------
Click
the link below:-----
Bad miss at idle?
http://technoanswers.blogspot.com/2012/01/bad-miss-at-idle.html
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Stumbling and stalling at
idle after engine rebuild?
http://schematicsdiagram.blogspot.in/2012/03/stumbling-and-stalling-at-idle-after.html
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1999 Ford F-150 Idles rough and quits when gas
pedal is pressed less?
http://technoanswers.blogspot.in/2012/01/1999-ford-f-150-idles-rough-and-quits.html
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Engine stumbles coming off idle when warm?
http://repairhelpcenter.blogspot.com/2012/01/engine-stumbles-coming-off-idle-when.html
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Erratic idle on car?
http://schematicsdiagram.blogspot.com/2011/12/erratic-idle-on-car.html
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Cold start problem and vehicle shudder around 2500 to
3500 rpms
http://repairhelpcenter.blogspot.com/2012/10/cold-start-problem-and-vehicle-shudder.html
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Low idle when cold out side?
http://repairhelpcenter.blogspot.com/2011/12/low-idle-when-cold-out-side.html
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GMC Sonoma Stalls and idles low
http://technoanswers.blogspot.com/2012/10/gmc-sonoma-stalls-and-idles-low.html
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GMC Idle Air Control (IAC)
Valve Replacing?
http://schematicsdiagram.blogspot.com/2011/12/gmc-idle-air-control-iac-valve.html
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1996 Camry intermittent
engine failure while idle?
http://repairhelpcenter.blogspot.com/2011/10/1996-camry-intermittent-engine-failure.html
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Engine quits at idle?
http://repairhelpcenter.blogspot.com/2011/10/engine-quits-at-idle.html
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Car overheats and Air blows
hot at idle?
http://howtobyme.blogspot.com/2011/11/car-overheats-and-air-blows-hot-at-idle.html
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High
Idle Problem
http://repairhelpcenter.blogspot.com/2012/10/high-idle-problem.html
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While stop engine idles
like cylinder missing?
http://schematicsdiagram.blogspot.com/2012/01/while-stop-engine-idles-like-cylinder.html
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Idle flair is noticed on car? Rough idle? car
will not idle? Erratic idle speed?
http://technoanswers.blogspot.in/2012/02/idle-flair-is-noticed-on-car-rough-idle.html
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High rpm in neutral? Inconsistant high RPM in
neutral?
http://technoanswers.blogspot.in/2012/02/high-rpm-in-neutral-inconsistant-high.html
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Vehicle stumbling at idle
and shows code 54?
http://schematicsdiagram.blogspot.in/2012/03/vehicle-stumbling-at-idle-and-shows.html
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Rough idle, staling and Erratic shifting?
http://technoanswers.blogspot.in/2012/03/rough-idlestaling-and-erratic-shifting.html
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While stop engine idles
like cylinder missing?
http://schematicsdiagram.blogspot.com/2012/01/while-stop-engine-idles-like-cylinder.html
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These
details will help.
Thanks.
http://repairhelpcenter.blogspot.com/2012/01/engine-stumbles-coming-off-idle-when.html
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Erratic idle on car?
http://schematicsdiagram.blogspot.com/2011/12/erratic-idle-on-car.html
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Cold start problem and vehicle shudder around 2500 to
3500 rpms
http://repairhelpcenter.blogspot.com/2012/10/cold-start-problem-and-vehicle-shudder.html
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Low idle when cold out side?
http://repairhelpcenter.blogspot.com/2011/12/low-idle-when-cold-out-side.html
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GMC Sonoma Stalls and idles low
http://technoanswers.blogspot.com/2012/10/gmc-sonoma-stalls-and-idles-low.html
--------
GMC Idle Air Control
(IAC) Valve Replacing?
http://schematicsdiagram.blogspot.com/2011/12/gmc-idle-air-control-iac-valve.html
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1996 Camry
intermittent engine failure while idle?
http://repairhelpcenter.blogspot.com/2011/10/1996-camry-intermittent-engine-failure.html
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Engine quits at idle?
http://repairhelpcenter.blogspot.com/2011/10/engine-quits-at-idle.html
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Car overheats and Air
blows hot at idle?
http://howtobyme.blogspot.com/2011/11/car-overheats-and-air-blows-hot-at-idle.html
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High Idle Problem
http://repairhelpcenter.blogspot.com/2012/10/high-idle-problem.html
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While stop engine idles like cylinder
missing?
http://schematicsdiagram.blogspot.com/2012/01/while-stop-engine-idles-like-cylinder.html
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Idle flair is noticed on car? Rough idle? car will not idle?
Erratic idle speed?
http://technoanswers.blogspot.in/2012/02/idle-flair-is-noticed-on-car-rough-idle.html
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High rpm in neutral? Inconsistant high RPM in neutral?
http://technoanswers.blogspot.in/2012/02/high-rpm-in-neutral-inconsistant-high.html
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Vehicle stumbling at idle and shows code 54?
http://schematicsdiagram.blogspot.in/2012/03/vehicle-stumbling-at-idle-and-shows.html
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Rough idle, staling and Erratic shifting?
http://technoanswers.blogspot.in/2012/03/rough-idlestaling-and-erratic-shifting.html
-----------While stop engine idles like cylinder
missing?
http://schematicsdiagram.blogspot.com/2012/01/while-stop-engine-idles-like-cylinder.html
---------These details will help.Thanks.
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Thank You I'm gonna try that I"ll let you know.
I also notice that the fans next to the radiator don't turn all the time is that only when the engine is hot then they turn on? and the needle to temperature gauge is always 3/4 to the Hot! is this safe? it does not go any further than that never passed the line to hot
idle very loud, consumes too much water and temperature always high
Idle high stalls when stopped
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