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In my 07 impala my engine light is on. both mufflers have big holes in them. will this throw off the oxygen sensors and give me an error reading? when i got it checked it said evap emission ckt check,

Engine light been on since mufflers started to get rusty, is it o2 sensor or something wth emmisions or just need new mufflers

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The ECU doesn't usually detect muffler issues since they are located beyond the emissions portion (mufflers are essentially for noise not emissions) Mufflers usually have small holes located on the lowest rear-most part to allow condensation to escape. If the holes are big enough for a pencil to fit in, yes you have rusty mufflers. They aren't the problem most likely, but that rust indicates age and poor condition of the entire emissions system. Most issues are in the form of leaks (vaccum or EGR) or sensors O2, MAP or MAF, or you could have a clogged catalytic converter all can be checked by a reputable mechanic if you are overwhelmed.

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Check engine light came on. Drives and runs normal. But a couple codes came on. Help please?

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What is fault code P0420

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I did try unhooking the egr valve tube to see if relieving pressure that way would make a difference , but it still had lack of powerupon acceleration in my 2001 chevy impala

that hole is not big enough to relieve the back pressure if your catalytic convertor is restricted.the best way to tell is by using a backpressure gauge installed where the front oxygen sensor is located.pressure should be under 1-2 psi under heavy acceleration.The front oxygen sensor is in the exhaust manifold on the back side of the engine.
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2003 impala. Hard starts and fumes smell.

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The catalytic converter has an oxygen sensor in front and behind it. When the vehicle is warm and running in closed loop mode, the upstream oxygen sensorwaveform reading should fluctuate. The downstream O2 sensoricon1.png reading should be fairly steady. Typically the P0420 code triggers the Check Engine Light if the readings of the two sensors are similar. This is indicative of (among other things) a converter that is not working as efficiently as it should be (according to specs). It is part of the vehicle emissions system.

Most likely, the aftermarket cat they installed is a high flow cat. This commonly causes issues with throwing that code on our cars. You can either have an OE cat installed, or just have the code deleted from the PCM by someone that has a tuner.
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Po420 code want pass

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The catalytic converter has an oxygen sensor in front and behind it. When the vehicle is warm and running in closed loop mode, the upstream oxygen sensor waveform reading should fluctuate. The downstream O2 sensor reading should be fairly steady. Typically the P0420 code triggers the Check Engine Light if the readings of the two sensors are similar. This is indicative of (among other things) a converter that is not working as efficiently as it should be (according to specs). It is part of the vehicle emissions system.

A code P0420 may mean that one or more of the following has happened:
Leaded fuel was used where unleaded was called for an oxygen sensor is not reading (functioning) properly
The engine coolant temperature sensor is not working properly
Damaged or leaking exhaust manifold / catalytic converter / exhaust pipe
******** spark timing
The oxygen sensors in front and behind the converter are reporting too similar of readings

Some suggested steps for troubleshooting a P0420 error code include:
Check for exhaust leaks at the manifold, pipes, catalytic converter. Repair as required.
Use a scope to diagnose the oxygen sensor operation (Tip: The oxygen sensor in front of the catalytic converter normally has a fluctuating waveform. The waveform of the sensor behind the converter should be more steady).
Inspect the downstream heated oxygen sensor (HO2), replace if necessary
Replace the catalytic converter
One thing to note is that many vehicle manufacturers offer a longer warranty on emissions-related parts. So if you have a newer car but it's out of it's bumper-to-bumper warranty, there still may be warranty on this type of problem. Many manufacturers give a five year, unlimited mileage warranty on these items. It's worth checking into.

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Check engine light on, but no drivability issues, no unusual sounds, runs perfect but the light is worrying me. would a loose muffler possibly cause the light to turn on?

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