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Having trouble bank 1 @ 2 sensors dont know which

Having trouble bank 1 @ 2 oxygen sensors dont know which is which .

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Many o-2 sensors go bad after about 60,000 miles they will cost you gas mileage,they tell computer engine is lean and causes more fuel to be dumped in when not needed--go to autozone if it is 96 and above they will scan it free give u possible causes and explanations! (former autozone manager) most fords o2 cost from 50-80 dollars jsmiles4012

  • jsmiles4012 Mar 05, 2009

    bank 1 refers to the same side as cylinder #1 sensor 2 will be after the catylitic converter

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1998 Infiniti I30 trouble code P0134 were are the oxygen sensors?

code p 0134 refers to heated oxygen sensor(HO2S) 1 bank 1--no activity detected ===causes ---wiring open circuit--heating inoperative---HO2S sensor
it also refers to oxygen sensor (O2S) 1 bank 1 --no activity===causes wiring -- oxygen sensor
HEATED oxygen sensors are in the exhaust manifold or exhaust pipe before the cat converter
oxygen sensors are in the exhaust pipe after the cat converter
bank one is the side closest to the radiator on a cross fitted engine or on the lhs with you facing the fan
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Which Oxygen Sensor Is It?

There are many inquiries online about which oxygen sensor to change. Oxygen sensor failure codes are very common on a lot of vehicles. With all of today's vehicles having at least two oxygen sensors and many having three or four of them, it can be a little confusing as to which one is causing the problem.

Before we get into which sensor is which, we need to have a little discussion about oxygen sensor fault codes. There are several different types of oxygen sensor fault codes. Here are just some of the most common ones:

P0135 "Oxygen Sensor Heater Circuit Bank1 Sensor 1"
P0141 "Oxygen Sensor Heater Circuit Bank 1 Sensor 2"
P0147 "Oxygen Sensor Circuit Bank 1 Sensor 3"
P0152 "Oxygen Sensor Voltage High Bank 2 Sensor 1"
P0159 "Oxygen Sensor Slow Response Bank 2 Sensor 2"
P0171 "Oxygen Sensor Lean Sensor 1 Bank 1"
P0172 "Oxygen Sensor Lean Sensor 1 Bank 2"
P0174 "Oxygen Sensor Rich Sensor 1 Bank 1"
P0175 "Oxygen Sensor Rich Sensor 1 Bank 2"

There are many more possible oxygen sensor codes, but I only listed these to make my point. Many times the oxygen sensor code is NOT caused by the oxygen sensor itself. "Lean" or "Rich" oxygen sensor codes (i.e. P0171, P0174) are usually caused by something other than the oxygen sensor. Something is wrong, causing the engine to run lean (not enough fuel or too much air) or causing the engine to run rich (too much fuel or not enough air). In these cases, replacing the oxygen sensor will not fix a thing. (That is, unless you are trying to fix your bank account from having too high of a balance!) The new oxygen sensor will just set the same code as the original one. This is because the oxygen sensor is not CAUSING the problem, it is only REPORTING the problem.

High voltage codes (like P0152 above) can be caused by the oxygen sensor wires being shorted to another wire inside the wiring harness. Sometimes these codes are caused by bad grounds where some other component is trying to ground through the oxygen sensor circuit. Again, replacing the oxygen sensor will not fix this! In short, the problem needs to be diagnosed before running out and buying an oxygen sensor.

Just because a fault code has "Oxygen Sensor" or "O2 Sensor" or "O2S" in its description does not necessarily mean that an oxygen sensor needs to be replaced. Many do-it-yourselfers believe that all there is to fixing the car is to hook it to the "magic box", collect the fault codes and replace the parts the computer tells you to replace. There is nothing further from the truth.

Fault codes only point you toward which SYSTEM is failing. The system must be diagnosed to find the CAUSE of the failure. If this is not done properly, it will only result in wasting a bunch of your money. This is what you were trying to avoid by doing it yourself!

So, after reading all of the above, if you think you still want to replace an oxygen sensor, but don't know which one; here is how to figure it out:

Oxygen sensors are always numbered like this:

Bank 1 Sensor 1
Bank 2 Sensor 1
Bank 1 Sensor 2
Bank 2 Sensor 2

Some manufacturers use a kind of shorthand that reads different, but means the same thing:

Sensor 1/1 or O2s 1/1
Sensor 2/1 or O2s 2/1
Sensor 1/2 or O2s 1/2
Sensor 2/2 or O2s 2/2

Bank 1 is always the side of the engine where cylinder #1 is located and, of course, Bank 2 is the opposite side.
On a 4 cylinder engine, there is only one bank and it is always referred to as Bank 1. The exception to the 4 cylinder rule is on certain 4 cylinder engines (specifically, some Toyotas) there are two catalytic converters used. In this case, Bank 1 sensors will still be in the pipe for the catalyst that is connected to cylinder #1 and Bank 2 sensors will be in the other one.

Sensor 1 is always the "upstream" sensor (the one located BEFORE the catalytic converter).
Sensor 2 is always the "downstream" sensor (the one that is located AFTER the catalytic converter).
Sensor 3 refers to the ONLY "downstream" sensor where there are two sensors before the catalyst and only one after the catalyst. On very few vehicles the reference to this reads "Bank 1 Sensor 3".

If you do not know where cylinder #1 is, then you need to get a diagram of the firing order for your engine. Just post a question on FixYa.com and make sure you give the YEAR, MAKE, MODEL, and ENGINE SIZE of your vehicle and one or more of our experts will be happy to tell you how to find cylinder #1.

- DTTECH
ASE Certified Master Automobile Technician


Also check out this article by dttech: What Else Could Be Wrong?
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Definition of Diagnostic Trouble Code P1430 Ford: Electric Air Pump Secondary Lincoln: Electric Air Pump Secondary Mazda: Electric Air Pump Secondary Mercury: Electric Air Pump Secondary Toyota: Intake Constrictor CTRL Circuit Open or Short

Definition of Diagnostic Trouble Code P1420 Audi: Second Air Injection Valve Circ Electrical Malfunction BMW: Secondary Air Valve Control Circuit Electrical Buick: Intake Air Low Pressure Switch Circuit Low Voltage Cadillac: Intake Air Low Pressure Switch Circuit Low Voltage Chevrolet: Intake Air Low Pressure Switch Circuit Low Voltage Chrysler: Register Resonant Charging 1 (RRC1) Dodge: Register Resonant Charging 1 (RRC1) Ford: Catalyst Temperature Sensor GMC: Intake Air Low Pressure Switch Circuit Low Voltage Honda: Nox Adsorptive Catalyst System Efficiency Below Threshold Catalytic converter Jeep: Register Resonant Charging 1 (RRC1) Lincoln: Catalyst Temperature Sensor Mazda: Catalyst system efficiency below threshold (bank 1) Mercedes: AIR Pump Switch over Valve Mercury: Catalyst Temperature Sensor Oldsmobile: Intake Air Low Pressure Switch Circuit Low Voltage Pontiac: Intake Air Low Pressure Switch Circuit Low Voltage Saturn: Intake Air Low Pressure Switch Circuit Low Voltage Subaru: EVAP Purge Control Solenoid Circuit High Input Toyota: SCV Control Circuit Malfunction Volkswagen: Second Air Injection Valve Circ Electrical Malfunction

Definition of Diagnostic Trouble Code P1805 Ford: Four wheel drive high indicator circuit failure Lincoln: Four wheel drive high indicator circuit failure Mazda: (4WD) High Indicator Open Circuit Mercury: Four wheel drive high indicator circuit failure Toyota: SB Solenoid Circuit Malfunction

Definition of Diagnostic Trouble Code P1152 Audi: Bank1, Long Term Fuel Trim, Range 2 Leanness Lower Limit Exceeded BMW: Oxygen Sensor Heater Circuit Low Voltage (Bank 2 Sensor 1) Ford: Lack Of Heated Oxygen Sensor Bank 2 Sensor 1 Switches - Sensor Indicates Rich Jaguar: Lack of H02S-21 switch, sensor indicates rich Land Rover: Oxygen sensor response time bank 2.Short circuit to ground Lincoln: Lack Of Heated Oxygen Sensor Bank 2 Sensor 1 Switches - Sensor Indicates Rich Mazda: Lack Of Heated Oxygen Sensor Bank 2 Sensor 1 Switches - Sensor Indicates Rich Mercury: Lack Of Heated Oxygen Sensor Bank 2 Sensor 1 Switches - Sensor Indicates Rich Subaru: Oxygen sensor range /performance problem (Low) Volkswagen: Bank1, Long Term Fuel Trim, Range 2 Leanness Lower Limit Exceeded Volvo: Oxygen Sensor Front, Bank 2

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Definition of Diagnostic Trouble Code P1021 Honda: Valve Pause System Stuck On Comprehensive Mitsubishi: OCV OPN. Bank 1 Saab: Injector Cylinder 2 Shorting To Ground Toyota: OCV for VVTL Open Malfunction (Bank 2)

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Definition of Diagnostic Trouble Code P1151 Audi: Bank1, Long Term Fuel Trim, Range 1 Leanness Lower Limit Exceeded BMW: Oxygen Sensor Heater Circuit Signal Intermittent (Bank 2 Sensor 1) Ford: Lack Of Heated Oxygen Sensor Bank 2 Sensor 1 Switches - Sensor Indicates Lean Jaguar: Lack of H02S-21 switch, sensor indicates lean Land Rover: Lambda control limit bank 2.Implausible signal/condition Lincoln: Lack Of Heated Oxygen Sensor Bank 2 Sensor 1 Switches - Sensor Indicates Lean Mazda: Lack Of Heated Oxygen Sensor Bank 2 Sensor 1 Switches - Sensor Indicates Lean Mercury: Lack Of Heated Oxygen Sensor Bank 2 Sensor 1 Switches - Sensor Indicates Lean Subaru: HO2S-12 Heater Circuit High Input Toyota: Coolant Path Clog Up for Coolant Heat Storage System Volkswagen: Bank1, Long Term Fuel Trim, Range 1 Leanness Lower Limit Exceeded
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Definition of Diagnostic Trouble Code P0302 Category: Powertrain Definition: Cylinder 2 Misfire DetectedNote: This definition of P0302 is applied to all manufacturers
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Definition of Diagnostic Trouble Code P0171 Category: Powertrain Definition: System Too Lean Bank 1Note: This definition of P0171 is applied to all manufacturers
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Is p0052 a fuse problem or a o 2 sensor

P0052 DTC trouble code may be caused by one or more of the following:
A short in the heater circuit in the sensor.
A failed O2 sensor heater.
Wiring/connectors broken/frayed leading to sensor and/or relay.
Failed PCM/ECM.
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What does the codes p0442,p0136 &p0141 mean on my 2001 ford taurus it failed inspection for these codes

P0442 FORD - Evaporative Emission System Leak Detected Small Leak

Possible causes- Missing or loose fuel cap
- Incorrect fuel filler cap used
- Fuel filler cap remains open or fails to close
- Foreign matter caught in fuel filler cap
- EVAP canister or fuel tank leaks
- EVAP system hose leaking
- Fuel tank leaking
P0136 - O2 Sensor Circuit Malfunction Bank 1 Sensor 2
Possible causes- Rear Heated Oxygen Sensor Bank 1 harness is open or shorted
- Rear Heated Oxygen Sensor Bank 1 circuit poor electrical connection
- Faulty Rear Heated Oxygen Sensor Bank 1
- Inappropriate fuel pressure
- Faulty fuel injectors
- Intake air leaks may be faulty
- Exhaust gas leaks

P0141 FORD - O2 Heater Circuit Bank 1 Sensor 2

Possible causes- Faulty Heated Oxygen Sensor (H2OS) Bank 1 Sensor 2
- Heated Oxygen Sensor (H2OS) Bank 1 Sensor 2 circuit fuse
- Heated Oxygen Sensor (H2OS) Bank 1 Sensor 2 circuit open shorted to ground
- Heated Oxygen Sensor (H2OS) Bank 1 Sensor 2 circuit poor electrical connection
- Faulty Engine Control Module (ECM)
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I have research around and found that the Bank 1 sensor 3 O2 sensor is post Cat. But when I got under there I dont see anything that could resemble a sensor. Where is it. Please help. Marc

try this
ALLDATA Editor's Note: Always verify #1 cylinder location prior to diagnosis and repair.

- Cylinder bank number one is the bank that contains number one cylinder.


See: Firing Order


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Cylinder #1 on left side.

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Cylinder #1 on right side.

- The first oxygen sensor in cylinder bank # 1 is numbered O2 Sensor 1/1.
- The second oxygen sensor in cylinder bank # 1 is numbered O2 Sensor 1/2.
- A third oxygen sensor in cylinder bank # 1 would be numbered O2 Sensor 1/3.
- The first oxygen sensor in cylinder bank # 2 is numbered O2 Sensor 2/1.
- The second oxygen sensor in cylinder bank # 2 is numbered O2 Sensor 1/1.



- If a V-6 or V-8 vehicle only uses one downstream Heated Oxygen Sensor (HO2S) it is numbered O2 Sensor 1/2, even if it uses two upstream HO2S.
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On my 97 Olds Aurora, I'm having trouble passing emissions. An oxygen sensor is malfunctioning, I have had my codes read and they say it's the bank 1 sensor 1. But I just replaced the very first oxygen...

The bank 1 sensor should be the one before the CAT on the side of the engine that includes cylinder #1. If you're not sure which bank that is, look across the heads from the side of the engine (front of the car) The bank with #1 on it will have the head a little (1"-2") more towards the front of the engine. The bank that has the head set back a bit will be #2. When there are sensors after the CAT, they're not oxygen sensors, they're CAT efficiency sensors.
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Trouble codes

P0108 - Manifold Absolute Pressure (MAP) Sensor Circuit High Voltage,
Possiable MAP sensor defective

P0134 - Heated Oxygen Sensor (HO2S) Circuit Insufficient Activity Bank 1 Sensor 1
P0141 - Heated Oxygen Sensor (HO2S) Heater Performance Bank 1 Sensor 2 , I recommend you replace both O2 sensors, bank 1 and bank 2
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Trouble codes

Hi Sandra!
The trouble codes listed are defined as:

P0141 Oxygen Sensor Heater Circuit Malfunction (Bank 1 Sensor 2)

P0300 Random/Multiple Cylinder Misfire Detected

P0331 Knock Sensor 2 Circuit Range/Performance (Bank 2)

PO300 & PO331 are possibly symptomatic of issues caused by PO141, which would have a direct influence on the air/fuel mxture... which could cause missing and knocking.

So the first thing I would try is replacing the Bank 2 Oxygen Sensor, after making sure the wiring and connections to that sensor are in good shape.

Does the engine show any physical issues such as loosing coolant, smoking exhaust, overheating? A blown or leaking head gasket on the #2 bank could also present these (among other)
codes.

Good luck and let me know how it goes!

WB
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