After checking bulbs and fuses, what could cause a failed turn signal and brake light?

If both the brake lights and rear turn signals are not functioning in your 2008 Dodge Charger, there are several possible causes to consider. Here are some common issues that could lead to this problem:
1. Blown fuses: Check the fuse box for any blown fuses related to the brake lights and turn signals. A blown fuse can interrupt the circuit and prevent the lights from working. Refer to your vehicle's manual to locate the specific fuse for these functions and replace it if necessary.
2. Faulty bulbs: Inspect the bulbs in the brake lights and turn signals to see if they are burnt out or damaged. If a bulb is not working, it should be replaced. It's possible that multiple bulbs have failed simultaneously, leading to both the brake lights and turn signals not functioning.
3. Wiring issues: Check the wiring connections and harnesses for any signs of damage, loose connections, or corrosion. Faulty wiring can disrupt the electrical flow and prevent the lights from operating. Repair or replace any damaged wiring as needed.
4. Malfunctioning brake light switch: The brake light switch, located near the brake pedal, activates the brake lights when the pedal is pressed. If the switch is faulty or misaligned, it can cause the brake lights to not work. Consider having the brake light switch inspected and replaced if necessary.
5. Faulty turn signal relay: The turn signal relay controls the flashing of the turn signals. If the relay is defective, it can prevent the rear turn signals from operating. Consider replacing the turn signal relay if other potential causes have been ruled out.
If troubleshooting these common issues does not resolve the problem, it is recommended to consult a professional mechanic or authorized Dodge service center for a more accurate diagnosis and repair. They will have the expertise and necessary tools to pinpoint and fix the specific issue with your 2008 Dodge Charger's brake lights and rear turn signals.

automatic transmission or manual stick, the brake/clutch switch operations are NOT THE SAME on both car options.
no country told, lighting (for sure external) are not the same all over earth, sorry I do not make laws (like DOT USA?) or anywhere.
this forum is www, a world wide web forum. so where are you ,a country.?
and you work with no voltmeter or service manual schematic.
and no scan tool? wow endless guessing done. throwing parts wild.
its is modern car, 2009 totally unlike a 1990 or 1980 or older car.
for sure.
there is never a need to replace all fuses ever, testing is super easy even if they all look good. (did they?). (look test, ohms or volts tests)

that melting thing means a lamp shorted. (they can)
I see reverse lamps failing and parking lamps
the transmission PRNDL SWITCH MUST WORK IN "R" OR THE LAMPS WILL BE DEAD REVERSE. BOTH WERE SO.....
I GUESS INDICATOR MEANS turns signals failed( blinkers)
the car has 4 corners, why not tell what all 4 do when Turns or parks fail.?>??? what they all do outside matters most. (electrics)

the huge problem here is not scanning the OBD2 port with a real scan tool. I bet it tells you why it fails I sure do but you failed to do that.

does this car have the parking AID option?
does this car have optioin
Daytime Running Lamps, a.k.a DRL?>? also wiring for TT is unique so states the SM (service manual)
i can't see you work on any car so now comes right parts questioln
using only these parts.,
Rear Turn Signal Bulb

1. Left/right Rear Turn Signal Bulb M6
2. Right Rear Turn Signal Bulb M8
3. 12 V, 18 W
4. W16W

the German manual calls park lamps TAIL even when front and side park lamps are park lamps. same source.
It does call TURNS turns, so we can find the correct schematics,
searching the online service manual for you.
most modern cars, use BCM to run all that. I call it the body brain
each maker uses there names and Germans use CODES
LIke J123. to name a model. (that must be decoded first to work the problem, yes a pain on all germane cars)
deep in the manual i found the secret german body brain
J519 - Vehicle Electrical System Control Module
this module runs the whole rear (it has DRIVERS)
Drives means electronic high power regulator drivers to lamps.
that if it sees a short , it simply goes OFFLINE until cures.
then magically goes back on one,

J519 - Vehicle Electrical System Control Module
M6 - Left Rear Turn Signal Bulb
M8 - Right Rear Turn Signal Bulb
M9 - Left Brake Lamp Bulb
M10 - Right Brake Lamp Bulb
M16 - Left Back-Up Lamp Bulb
M17 - Right Back-Up Lamp Bulb
M37 - Left Rear Side Marker Lamp Bulb
M38 - Right Rear Side Marker Lamp Bulb
T2g - 2-Pin Connector, In the Luggage Compartment, Right, Black
T6k - 6-Pin Connector
T6l - 6-Pin Connector, Black
T12c - 12-Pin Connector, Black
T12d - 12-Pin Connector, Brown
X3 - Rear Fog Lamp
395 - Ground Connection 30 (in Main Wiring Harness)
662 - Ground Connection in Left Rear Side Panel
676 - Ground Connection 2 in Luggage Compartment, Left
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J519 is here
Behind driver's left stowage compartment, beside steering column -2

Fuse 7 (On Fuse Panel C)? blown fuse?
this car uses CAN BUS.
many of the switches wire directly to the J519 Body brain
but not all.
lets look at that now, (my book is USA only SM)
the steering switchs for park, turn and heads.
are all sent to the cluster brain directly,
then the cluster brain via the CAN_BUS network sends data commands to the J519 (body brain)
then if this fails the scan tool told you it did but you never scanned the OBD2 port. while failing
others found water leaks to dash module (windshield cracks or glued in wrong and leaks)
some Audi versions 2009 have top of brake pedal brake switch that must work, and is direct drive signal to J519
TURNS are not switch actual direct drive to the J519. no.


example 1
U1113 Audi Code
lacking scan tools you will never fix this by guessing. sorry
CAN Bus wiring intermittently open, shorted to power or ground
U0001
U0155<< lost comms to IP cluster.
and more lots and lots more possible
we check all fuses in all fuses boxs A ,B,C etc.
then scan the OBD2 port. for errors. for sure comm errors'

see this fuse box?

Main Fuse Box in Right Rear of Luggage Compartment on Battery see? drivers (electronic) to each lamp. proof (no fuses to lamps)
so if one lamp shorts. the other do not die. by design
and J519 must get the commands to turn them on first.

Has the vehicle been in an accident on the left rear side. First check the bulb to be sure it is not defective, trade it out with the side that works properly to test. If the bulb works well then My thought are you may have a shorted wire. The turn signal flasher works by heat build up within the flasher the heat is caused by the load of the bulbs, the load heats the metal spring causing it to open the circuit then as quickly as it cools down the circuit closes again lighting the bulbs.
There is also a possibility of a defect in the turn signal mechanism on the steering column. The turn signal switch on many models does three different things on many models that use the same bulb element / or bulb for brake and turn on rear of vehicle. It controls the circuit for brake light by sending power both left and right side rear when turn signal is in neutral position then when turn signal is in left turn the switch cancels brake light power to left side rear and supplies flasher power to left side while maintaining brake light supply to the right side rear, and so on opposite when the right turn is chosen on turn signal switch. The turn signal indicators on the dash normally run off the same circuit as front turn signal bulb only which is also controlled by turn signal switch. Front has turn signals but no brake light.
I think there is an additional load on the left side rear turn circuit and it could be either a wire that is shorted or the turn signal switch if the same bulb element is used for both functions.
Often times if trailer lighting is connected the flasher will also blink a little faster because of the extra load of additional bulbs.

Brakes are generally not fused seperately. Have u check the bulb in the left side.

Fast flashing dash signals mean there is a bulb issue-DEFINATELY!

Replace the turn signal switch. Bad contact inside causing a crossing of the circuits. When the turn signal is applied it should open the brake light circuit allowing for just the signal to work. Doesn't sound like the switch is doing it's job.

you may have a bad ground

the brake lights and the rear turn signals should be the same bulb check the bulbs to make sure they are not blown does your third brake light work if all brake light are out and the bulbs are good check the brake light switch on the brake pedal

I have a 2000 ford focus no brake lights. with the brake lights the transmission would not go into drive .replaced the brake light switch checked fuse replaced turn signal switch with no results then i moved onto the wiper switch and replaced it as much to my supp rise it fixed the problems

Rear lights are double filament bulbs one side for the lights other side for the brake/turn signals so it still may be a bulb. Do u have a test light or volt meter you can check to make sure u have power there when brakes or turn signals are activated. Or just try another bulb.