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Electrical problem When I put the left turn signal on the left turn indication, left turn lamp, the right turn lamp, and the right front side marker light all come on flashing. When I put on the right turn signal, the right turn indicator, right front turn lamp, and the left front marker light all come on flashing. Oh, and my instrument cluster light flashes with it. If I put on my headlights, hazard lights or step on the brakes, the flashing stop but the lights stay on solid. I have changed the flashers, headlight switch, and the turn signal switch. I haven't found any burnt fuses. No burnt bulbs either.

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  • ristroketpow May 22, 2009

    I found a bad ground where the wire bundle leaves the trunk and goes into the tail lamp section. I also changed all the rear lamp sockets. Problem fixed. thx.

  • Anonymous Mar 15, 2014

    Right turn indicator and hazard lights are still working. Someone suggested the relay switch might need replacing but how can I find it? Can anyone help?

  • Anonymous Mar 25, 2014

    hazard lights flash nonstop

  • Anonymous Mar 28, 2014

    headlights are staying on fter key is out of ignition, can move turn signal around and they turn off, also the bight and dim switch does not work right

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Find the ground wire on one of the lights and add another ground wire to a good clean metal surface and see if that fixes the problem. It defently sounds like a ground problem at one of the lights.

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all else on car works perfectly (other shoe drops??????)
waring 1: no scan tool, you will fail (99%)
is battery fully charged to 12.6vdc rested or at 10v?
all 4 corners dead?
not working means dead?, flashes too fast/slow or dim? or they stick on? (5 modes to fail not counting L/R and haz)
do the hazards work? (prime evidence and not stated)
most cars before 2007 have fuse marked TURN.
but not this car... its not at all like older cars....
did you scan it first after the fuse tests? any PCM scan tool.?
2009 WK jeep
the FSM chapter 8L shows the huge list of errors the lamps can fail. DTC errors.
in fact 8 blinker codes, ! DTC errors,

there is no fuse, just for turns, (trailer lamps fuse 19)

read this excerpt from the FSM book.

The turn signal system operates on battery current received on a fused ignition switch output (run) circuit so that the
turn signals will only operate with the ignition switch in the On position. The hazard warning system operates on
non-switched battery current received on a fused B(+) circuit so that the hazard warning remains operational regardless
of the ignition switch position. When the turn signal system is activated, the circuitry of the left multi-function
switch and the FCM will cause the selected (right or left) turn signal indicator, front park/turn signal lamp, front side
marker lamp and rear tail/stop/turn signal lamp to flash on and off. When the hazard warning system is activated,
the circuitry of the hazard warning switch and the FCM will cause both the right side and the left side turn signal
indicators, front park/turn signal lamps, front side marker lamps and rear tail/stop/turn signal lamps to flash on and
off. The Front Control Module (FCM) can also activate the hazard warning system lamps.
end quote)

the module front control MFC, runs this
and it uses fuse 18 , if 18 blows the module goes off line and vast things fail and huge numbers OF DTCs store.
and fuse 27 MFC
MFC needs these fuses good.
keep in mind nobody has MFC internal schematics...so........



this module drives left and right side front and rear.
electronic drivers, not fuses.
the MFC is here.
the fuses are 12,13,18, 20,27 that power MFC.


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1982 chevrolet S10 Only headlights come one with

Voltage for the tail lamps shows to be a brown wire. Use a test light, check that wire for voltage, headlamp switch on. If voltage then check black ground wire.
A problem with grounds will cause some weird things to happen. Ground wires are black. You can use a test light to check ground, one end of testlight comes from battery voltage, the other end you touch ground, black wire, you have to penetrate the insulation. If the lite comes on, at least the ground is good enough for the test light.
At the moment, I don't care about the maker lamps. I do care about tail--stop--turn--tag lamp. In the past, I have been stopped because of no tag light.
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Click on the link, hope you can read it.
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2003 Jeep liberty right front turn signal

why skip RR lamp? what does IT DO? be like 1st 1st look.
dim, out, fast?

the rapid is talking to you
it means current is wrong,
shorted, or open lines. to the right.
its the wiring
if the bulbs are like 1157 brass base bulbs
why not replace them first , they can short inside,
asking online for guessing is silly, why listen to 10 examples for this.
but is cut wires.
shorted wires.
keep i mind the blinker asks funny for both opens and shorts
its a feature, that.
low current or too much.

the acid test is connect 2 TEST bulbs in parallel to the multi-function switch output right side,
blinks ok now, bingo bad lamps or bad wiring, from there to the right side.

if the hazard fails you never said????
if rigth front is dim or dead the bulb is blown or shorted
if new bulb there , then the wires are shorted.
to it.
the only help on line worth squat is how to test and use your meter.
you can, check for voltage
you can check continuity on that line (its just 1 wire)
and check for shorts on that wire to ground (lamps pulled right side to do that, lamps read 0 ohms cold)
look for collision damage RF? behind lamp sockets?
be first.
in my book.
looking is always first. sure.


I have your SM book open now, chapter 8w-50
the haz/blink module has just 2 pins, left and right out.
pin 3 on the module runs front and rear blinks, (a fact to know)
RF is BR/RD, brown -red stripe?
all comments USA on USA forum. USA car.
ok?

the right side lamp (sidemaker) only blinks turns if parks ARE oFF

Id try 2 new blinker lamps front and 1 rear.
that be first. or test the lamp on a battery , and no not get burned fingers hot wring a shorted lamp.

wish i knew
what rear did
and what both did on HAZ
out, dim or to fast.
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Turn signal

A slow flash indicates that one of the signal bulbs has burned out. You need to check the turn signal bulbs as well as the marker lamp bulbs. The marker lamps on the the side of the vehicle.
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I have a 99 Pontiac Sunfire, 2.2L and my turn signals quit working. I replaced the combination switch and the flasher/hazard relay, and still no joy. The problem was intermittent, and now it's just dead....

It will turn on when I hit the button and the turn signals do work. All of this has led to my ABS lights to come on as well. ??????????? Your best bet , take it to a qualified repair shop or learn to do better explanation's ! Or lean to do automotive electrical testing .
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Do you know what a wiring diagram is ? How to use a DVOM - digital volt ohm meter ? Free wiring diagrams here http://www.bbbind.com/free_tsb.html Enter vehicle info. year make ,model and engine size. Under system click on lighting ,then under subsystem click on turn signals . Click the search button then the blue links .Check power an ground circuits ! This is how we diagnose electrical faults , not just replacing parts .

Turn Lamps
Voltage is applied through the TURN fuse and the turn/hazard flasher when the ignition switch is in the following positions:
• RUN
• BULB TEST
• START
The voltage travels to the contact in the hazard switch. The hazard switch is located in the turn/hazard-headlamp switch assembly. This contact is normally closed.
When the left turn signal is turned on, voltage is applied to the following components.
• The left turn indicator
• The left front park/turn lamp circuit 14
• The left rear turn lamp circuit 18
The turn lamps turn on immediately. The current flow heats up the timing element. The timing element is located in the turn/hazard flasher. The timing element repeatedly opens and closes the circuit. This action causes the turn lamps to begin flashing.
The voltage that is applied to the left front park/turn lamp is also applied to the left front marker lamp. If the headlamp switch is in the OFF position, the left front marker lamp will find a path to ground through one of the following lamps. The following lamps provide low resistance paths to ground:
• The right front marker lamp
• The right turn indicator
• The right front park/turn lamps
• The left front park/turn lamps
The left front marker lamp flashes with the turn lamps. The voltage drop across the marker lamp is much higher than the voltage drop across the other lamps. The lamps that are used for the ground path will not flash.
When the headlamp switch is in either the PARK or HEAD positions, voltage is applied through the following components:
• The EXT LP fuse
• The marker lamps
• The park lamps
When the left turn signal is turned on, the left marker lamp will have voltage at both connections. The left marker lamp does not light. When the turn/hazard flasher stops the voltage to the turn lamps, the marker lamp is grounded through the turn lamp. The marker lamp does not go on. The left front marker lamp flashes in the following manner:
• The left front marker lamp flashes on when the turn filament of the left front park/turn lamp goes off.
• The left front marker lamp flashes off when the turn filament of the left front park/turn lamp goes on.
Voltage is applied to the right lamps in the same manner, when the right turn signal is turned on.
Hazard Lamps
Voltage is applied at all times through the following components to the normally open contact of the hazard switch in the turn/hazard-headlamp switch assembly:
• The STOP HAZ fuse
• The turn/hazard flasher
When the hazard switch is turned on, voltage is applied to the following components:
• The front turn lamps
• The rear turn lamps
The following lamps flash on and off:
• All of the turn lamps
• Both of the turn indicators
The front marker lamps flash with the hazard lamps on, just as the front marker lamps flash when the turn lamps are on. If the headlamp switch is in the OFF position, the front marker lamps flash on when the hazard lamps are on. The front marker lights will flash on when the hazard lamps are on if the headlamp switch is in one of the following positions:
• PARK
• HEAD
When the hazard lamps are on, the following conditions apply:
• The turn circuit is always open.
• The turn/hazard flasher controls the lamp.
Park/Marker Lamps
Voltage is applied through the EXT LP fuse, to the headlamp switch at all times. Voltage is applied to the park lamps and the marker lamps when the headlamp switch is in the following positions:
• PARK
• HEAD
The front marker lamps are grounded through the turn filament of the respective front park/turn lamp. The front marker lamps light as a result.
Stop Lamps
Voltage is applied through the STOP HAZ fuse to the brake switch at all times. When the brake pedal is depressed, the brake switch closes. This action applies voltage through the turn/hazard-headlamp switch assembly to the following lamps:
• The high mounted stop lamp assembly
• The left tail/stop-turn lamps
• The right tail/stop-turn lamps


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