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James Mclaughlin Posted on Oct 09, 2012

1994 saab900se. I have changed the fuel pump assembly,fuel pump,fuel filter and fuel pressure regulator and I still have to turn it over several times before it starts, also It sputters for a few minu

The fuel tank is full and the guages will all shut off then come back on while im driving it also. cant figure it out.

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Have you checked the crank position sensor. If its weak or failing, it will not activate the fuel pump so will give symptoms of fuel starvation. Another symptom is that the cvar is hard to start when it is hot. These sensors die with age due to heat breakdown of insulation inside them.

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Anonymous

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  • Posted on Aug 04, 2008

SOURCE: 900 Saab V6 extended cranking time

Hi, have you checked or replaced the oxygen sensors?

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Anonymous

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  • Posted on Aug 07, 2008

SOURCE: Extended starting time

Sounds like an ignition problem..
The Direct Ignition module in the turbo model can fail but is easily tested and replaced.

Remove turn the , Direct Ignition module put the spark plugs in the holes, ground each plug to the negative battery terminal by use of a wire about 2 feet long and stripped at each plug. Crank over the engine over watching the spark plugs. If there is a problem with the cassette, one of the plugs will have no spark or a very weak spark. Also, when you turn the ignition key off there should be a shower of sparks that runs all of the plugs simultaneously several times.
DANGER BE CAREFUL ! ! ! EXTREMELY HIGH VOLTAGE! There have been occasions when the Direct Ignition module would test ok when turned upside down but would fail when turned back over to install into the valve cover ?
Also: Oil leakage from the individual coils of the Direct Ignition module have also been a problem. Oil leaks can be identified by noting that there is oil surrounding spark plug hole.
Hope this helps.
Cheers MMP

Anonymous

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  • Posted on Nov 29, 2008

SOURCE: Could it be the Fuel Pump?

It could be the anti-drain back valve (check valve) is stuck or it could be the Walbro fuel pump which is known to be good up to the 80,000 to 120,000 mile range. The banging on the tank trick working usually means fuel pump.
The typical symptom of a fuel pump check valve failure is extended cranking time during startup. What generally occurs here is that the check valve in the fuel line sticks open causing lack of fuel pressure. This usually occurs after the car has been sitting for a while or overnight. The fuel pressure leaks down causing the fuel pump to have to work very hard to push the fuel from the tank to the fuel rail. The symptom is similar to vapor lock but not quite. The solution to this is to replace the fuel pump check valve which can be difficult in itself. Be very cautious when attempting this repair because of the dealing with the fuel system and this always presents a potential FIRE HAZARD!!!!!!!
NOTE: When doing this job, be careful. If you break the link with no check valve in the fitting you will have to replace the entire fuel line because Saab does not offer the fitting by itself. Being a "Bull in a china shop" would not be a good idea here. If you break the valve you can replace the valve by itself only if you purchase the complete line and remove the valve from the new line and install it in the old line. They valves become brittle over time and can easily break when removing the fuel pump.
Fuel pump failures often cause the engine to buck when going up hills or just quit completely. You can test the fuel pressure using a fuel pressure gauge. The pressure should about 40 PSI (approximately). The location of the pump depends on which car you have. On the later model 900, 93, 95, and 97X the fuel pump is located in the fuel tank and the tank must be removed to replace it.

Anonymous

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  • Posted on Jan 06, 2009

SOURCE: fuel guage on saab 95 , 2001, showing empty while tank is full

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Anonymous

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  • Posted on Aug 22, 2009

SOURCE: my saab 1994 900 s has no power to fuel pump

Fuel pump runs or not ? If runs and no presure at out put line than either the pump is toast or the filter (before the pump) is plugged or plane Jane no fuel or a pin hole in the suction line (draws air instead of fuel), if the fuel pump does not run, than check the fuse and the connector at the pump to ensure power goes to the pump.

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Fig. Fig. 5: Remove the fuel filter/pressure regulator retaining clip from the top of the assembly


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Fig. Fig. 6: Replace the old fuel filter/pressure regulator mounting gasket

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Fig. Fig. 7: Check the condition of the fuel filter/pressure regulator O-rings

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4.3L (RPO L35) Fuel meter body assembly gm_trk_sil15_02-04_43_fuel_metr_body_assy.gif

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4.3L (RPO L35) Fuel meter body assembly gm_trk_sil15_02-04_43_fuel_metr_body_assy.gif

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4.3L (RPO LU3) Fuel meter body assembly gm_trk_sil15_02-04_43_rpolu3_fuel_metr_body_assy.gif

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4.3L (RPO LU3) Fuel meter body assembly gm_trk_sil15_02-04_43_rpolu3_fuel_metr_body_assy.gif

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Fig. 3.1L engine OBD system check to be done before fuel pump relay circuit diagnosis


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Fig. 3.1L engine fuel pump relay circuit diagnosis (1 of 2)


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Fig. 3.1L engine fuel pump relay circuit diagnosis (2 of 2)


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B - 3.1L engine fuel system pressure test (2 of 4)
C - 3.1L engine fuel system pressure test (3 of 4)
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Fig. The fuel pump/fuel sender module assembly is mounted in the fuel tank


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(the fuel pressure regulator, which is located on the fuel rail assembly)

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Before removing the fuel regulator assembly, place a clean shop towel under the regulator to catch any fuel drips

  1. Properly relieve the fuel system pressure.
  2. If not done already, disconnect the negative battery cable.
  3. On the 3.1L engine, remove the intake manifold plenum, as outlined in .
  4. On the 2.4L engine, remove the fuel rail. Refer to procedure earlier in this section.
  5. Detach the vacuum line from the regulator.
  6. Place a shop towel under the regulator to catch any fuel that may drip out. Unfasten the fuel pressure regulator retaining screw, then remove the regulator by twisting and pulling it from the fuel rail.
  7. Remove and discard the O-ring seal. Inspect the filter screen for contamination and replace if necessary.
To install:
  1. Prior to assembling the pressure regulator to the fuel rail, lubricate the new rail-to-regulator O-ring seal with clean engine oil.
  2. Place the O-ring on the pressure regulator and install the pressure regulator to the fuel rail.
  3. Install the retainer or coat the regulator mounting screws with an approved thread locking compound and secure the pressure regulator in place. Tighten the mounting screw to 76 inch lbs. (8.5 Nm).
  4. If removed, install the fuel rail assembly to the engine.
WARNING The fuel return pipe must be connected before tightening the regulator retaining screw to prevent the regulator from rotating. Rotation of the regulator could damage the retainer and spacer bracket and lead to a fuel leak at the regulator inlet.
  1. Connect the fuel feed line and return line to the fuel rail assembly, use a backup wrench on the fittings to prevent turning.
  2. Attach the vacuum line to the regulator.
  3. On the 3.1L engine, install the intake manifold plenum.
  4. Connect the negative battery cable. Turn the ignition to the ON position for two seconds, then turn it to the OFF position for ten seconds. Turn again to the ON position and check for fuel leaks.

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