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Motor makes a noise at high speed like timing chain is slapping the cover

It runs fine it just makes the noise at high engine speed even when sitting still.

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Could be anything from belt noise idle pulley noise to lifters or injector noise is it a knocking noise is your check engine lite on I think I would have a mechanic look at this issue before it becomes a breakdown

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SOURCE: noise from front of motor

Yes the idler pulley can make noise, but not very common. It can do it though.

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SOURCE: Van Idle

If it is a carb engine check the carb setup, check if the carb is clean.

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SOURCE: Engine noise in 460 1983 E 350

this is hard to diagnose without hearing it but its either the timing chain or wrist pin on a piston

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SOURCE: Engine making noise. Might be from timming chain. Please help?

Sounds like the fan is hitting the cowl. Check the fan for a broken blade or the cowl for any stray pieces that could be hitting the fan. A loose heat shield on the catalytic converter is also a possibility. Heat shields are basically spot welded and most muffler shops won't touch them. Hope this helps to answer your question.
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SOURCE: my 2004 f150 runs fine until the the engine gets

If it has a problem bad enough to stall, it should record something on the computer. Autozone or Oreillys will scan for free. You should have a circuit or sensor to speed up the idle or at least turn on a cooling fan to bring down the engine temperature.

Some of the DOHC engines use a part called a "Cam Phaser" to adjust the variable cam timing. You may want to have the Dealer run your VIN for a Recall. Ford was extending the Years and Mileage coverage and it can be a $2400 repair. If you hear a "tapping" noise that disappears after 2000RPM, thats another symptom.

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Hi I have this like going from low to high grinding noise near by the camshaft gear or the valve cover but about as high as the camshaft gear it does it after starting car and when start acceletaring and...

Sounds like a Belt or timing chain is slapping inside the Cover ,,, usually a sign that your Belt or chain tensioner is broken ,,, i wouldn't run it to long ,,as it will skip and do serious engine damage ,,GET IT TOWED TO A TRUSTED SHOP !!!
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What can be the problem as to why my time chain lite is on?

Is there high mileage on the vehicle? Do you hear slapping noise or vibration at the timing chain cover. It may be that the chain has stretched. Get a trouble code scan at Auto Zone or Advance Auto and see what codes come up. The codes will give a better idea of what's going on with engine.

Once you have the codes, you can do a web search for them to get more information about the codes.
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Makes knocking noise that sound like something is loos banging only when jeep warms up and only in gear

TROUBLESHOOTING ENGINE NOISES
A KNOCKING SOUND IN THE ENGINE IS MOST LIKELY CAUSED BY ONE OF THE FOLLOWING
1. PISTON SLAP: Makes a sharp metallic noise. Idle engine and short out each cylinder plug. The noise will disappear when plug with bad piston is shorted. Noise will also disappear at acceleration. This can be caused by worn or out of round cylinder, or broken piston ring. Correct problem by re-boring cylinder and/or replacing piston.
2. VALVE NOISE: Makes clicking or rattle noise. Caused by excessive wear on valve stem or lifter, out of adjustment, or stuck valve. Correct by adjusting valve clearance, replace worn valve or lifter, regrind cam, replace valve guide and /or valve. A stuck valve can sometimes be loosened by passing oil through the carburetor while engine is running.

3. ROD BEARING KNOCK: Makes sharp metallic noise similar to a piston slap. Detection is opposite of piston slap. Rod knock is not heard at idle. Knock becomes louder as engine speed is increased. Caused by excessive rod bearing clearance. Correct by adjusting rod bearing clearance to .0015 inches by removing shims. May require re-pouring rod bearing.
4. REAR MAIN BEARING KNOCK: Makes dull knocking or thud noise. Detected at speeds between 20 and 50 MPH. Knock will normally decrease or disappear while pulling or decelerating. Noise will be detected the loudest at normal driving speed, when not pulling or decelerating. Correct by adjusting bearing clearance to .001 to .0015 inches. If knock is excessive, crank should be checked for out of roundness. May need to re-pour all main bearings to correct.
5. TIMING GEAR KNOCK: usually the most difficult to diagnose. If gear is loose or badly worn it will knock in all ranges. Run engine slightly above idle speed. Slowly open and close throttle. Knock will continue to be present, but just as engine slows down knock will become a slight rattle. Remove timing pin and reinsert into timing hole on timing gear cover. Press timing pin tightly against timing gear and accelerate slightly above idle. Knock will significantly be reduced or disappear. Correct by replacing both timing gear and crank gear as a matched set. The two gears should have a backlash clearance of .003 to .004. If more than .009 inch backlash, an oversize (.005) timing gear should be installed.
6. WRIST PIN SLAP: This can not be detected by shorting out the cylinder plugs. Rapidly accelerate and decelerate the engine speed. The engine will pass through a certain speed range when the wrist pin will rattle at about the same pitch as a valve tappet noise. This can be corrected by installing a new wrist pin bushing in the rod or new wrist pin f badly worn. Wrist pin should fit the piston and connecting rod with a tight metal to metal fit. The pin can be pushed into the piston and rod with a slight pressure of the hand. Pin to rod clearance is .0003 to .0005 inches.

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Making knocking sound

A KNOCKING SOUND IN THE ENGINE IS MOST LIKELY CAUSED BY ONE OF THE FOLLOWING
1. PISTON SLAP: Makes a sharp metallic noise. Idle engine and short out each cylinder plug. The noise will disappear when plug with bad piston is shorted. Noise will also disappear at acceleration. This can be caused by worn or out of round cylinder, or broken piston ring. Correct problem by re-boring cylinder and/or replacing piston.
2. VALVE NOISE: Makes clicking or rattle noise. Caused by excessive wear on valve stem or lifter, out of adjustment, or stuck valve. Correct by adjusting valve clearance, replace worn valve or lifter, regrind cam, replace valve guide and /or valve. A stuck valve can sometimes be loosened by passing oil through the carburetor while engine is running.

3. ROD BEARING KNOCK: Makes sharp metallic noise similar to a piston slap. Detection is opposite of piston slap. Rod knock is not heard at idle. Knock becomes louder as engine speed is increased. Caused by excessive rod bearing clearance. Correct by adjusting rod bearing clearance to .0015 inches by removing shims. May require re-pouring rod bearing.
4. REAR MAIN BEARING KNOCK: Makes dull knocking or thud noise. Detected at speeds between 20 and 50 MPH. Knock will normally decrease or disappear while pulling or decelerating. Noise will be detected the loudest at normal driving speed, when not pulling or decelerating. Correct by adjusting bearing clearance to .001 to .0015 inches. If knock is excessive, crank should be checked for out of roundness. May need to re-pour all main bearings to correct.
5. TIMING GEAR KNOCK: usually the most difficult to diagnose. If gear is loose or badly worn it will knock in all ranges. Run engine slightly above idle speed. Slowly open and close throttle. Knock will continue to be present, but just as engine slows down knock will become a slight rattle. Remove timing pin and reinsert into timing hole on timing gear cover. Press timing pin tightly against timing gear and accelerate slightly above idle. Knock will significantly be reduced or disappear. Correct by replacing both timing gear and crank gear as a matched set. The two gears should have a backlash clearance of .003 to .004. If more than .009 inch backlash, an oversize (.005) timing gear should be installed.
6. WRIST PIN SLAP: This can not be detected by shorting out the cylinder plugs. Rapidly accelerate and decelerate the engine speed. The engine will pass through a certain speed range when the wrist pin will rattle at about the same pitch as a valve tappet noise. This can be corrected by installing a new wrist pin bushing in the rod or new wrist pin f badly worn. Wrist pin should fit the piston and connecting rod with a tight metal to metal fit. The pin can be pushed into the piston and rod with a slight pressure of the hand. Pin to rod clearance is .0003 to .0005 inches.

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Grinding nose from timing cover and a tick from valve cover could that tick be chain slap or is the 2.4 a no tolarince motor

The Tick is more likely worn lifters and cam. The grinding noise is most likely the timing chain guide is worn out or broken. Possibly a bad timing chain Tensioner. That IS an interference engine.
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Loud clicking noise coming from crankshaft pulley and goes away when a/c is on and when idle is higher. Why the noise?

Take a dry bar of soap and touch it against the sides of the belt(s) while the engine is running. If the noise goes away for a little while, the noise is from the belt settling into the grove of the pulley. Belts can really make loud pooping noises.

If this has no effect, then your timing chain may be too loose for the timing chain tensioner to compensate, and the chain is slapping against the inside of the timing chain cover.

If this is the case, do not let this condition go on. The timing chain cover is aluminum, and the chain is high grade steel. The chain will wear a hole in the cover if it is hitting the inside of it, and that is allowed to continue.
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Bad slapping noise.

could be something with the timing chain system. There were some complaints about the chain slapping the cover and even a good number regarding failure for these cars. If it's anything more than a slight tick I would, or have a professional, take a look at it. If one of the guides, or the tensioner, or even a link in the chain itself let go it can spell big trouble if you try to drive it.
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Noise when start engine

I have the same problem with my CX-7, but I haven't find solution yet :( :( :(
They open the engine and replace the timing belt tensioner, but that was not the problem
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