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Timing belt replacement problem

Per instructions, brought engine to TDC, took everything apart and didn't move anything. Made sure all timing marks aligned and put new belt on, per instructions. When I turned engine 2xs back to TDC, marks on cam pulley were 1 sprocket tooth off - before timing mark on the back plate.Then turned engine 4 more revs to TDC to bring me back to starting point.Timing lines on belt now line up with back plate marks perfectly, but cam pulley marks are still 1 tooth off (as before).

I did this procedure twice with same results. Is this correct? Can I start the engine without damage?

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Old timing belt stretched

you only hand turn twice

get number one cyl up on compression stroke both vales closed piston to top of stroke

put the cam with the tooth out to align marks

try again

unless you are 180 deg out should be right




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I would ensure that after rotating the engine that all timing marks line up as per the manual ( that is what they are there for -ti ensure that you have the timing correct )
I would be a waste of effort to get it all together to find that it will not perform properly

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Anonymous

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  • Posted on Oct 26, 2008

SOURCE: timing marks

this is a complex fix. if the timing belt is off, you will have to align both of the cams (V6??) to their respective notches on the back plate that protects the belt. You must also align the crank shaft to TDC, top dead center. Put the belt on (with tensioner off) then put tensioner on and release allen key. turn the engine by hand or using the starter two full rotations, the notches on the tops of the cam pulleys should be perfectly alligned with the notches on the back plate. if not, you missed a notch in the wrong spot and have to try again.

i've done this twice, once on a lexus es250 v6, and again on my 94 camry, its one of the hardest things i've ever done when repairing cars. be patient, have a friend help, don't get frustrated. if you really cant get it, have a mechanic come to your house and drop him a few bills to help you. you'll be glad you did

Paul

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  • Posted on Apr 14, 2009

SOURCE: 1992 toyota celica 2.2 timing belt broke.i turned

well hold on there cowboy, first consult your service manual if your cars engine is an interference type. it means that if ever your timing belt breaks the valves that were stranded shall be hammered by up moving piston. eventually bending and warping of some of the valves would be a result. sometimes a damaged piston could also happen. timing belt breakage is a very serious matter and should not be taken likely. if you do not have a manual, what i do is removing the whole cyclinder head and inspect it. its better to be sure than sorry. in other cases you could see the warped valves by turning the crankshaft from tdc to 90 deg. and after which try turning the camshaft all the way around and carefully feeling the ease or difficulty in turning it and also the lift and rest of the rocker arms. any deviations you from the standard filler guage clearances would mean a bent or broken valves. hope this helps.

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Jeffery Lewis

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  • Posted on May 29, 2009

SOURCE: TIMING BELT MARKS DONT MATCH AFTER ENGINE TURNED OVER

dont worry about that you will have to turn the motor over 40 to 50 time before those timing belt marks line up again if your pulley marks line up correctly thats all you have to worry about

Grahame Begg

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  • Posted on Jun 09, 2009

SOURCE: How to line up no1 cylinder on TDC on 1998 Daewoo

this is a trick that will work on any conventional motor.
1. sit a piece of wire in the spark plug hole long enough to touch the piston @ half stroke and not fall in = mark the spot with a correction pen on the pully
2. holding the wire in place, turn the crank away from the wire until the piston touches the piston again = mark the spot
3. measure half way between the marks and mark with easily visable mark.
happy motoring

Patrick Rayome

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  • Posted on Mar 30, 2010

SOURCE: You are changing the timing belt and you need o

Click on the following free direct Link. It has the Timing: Belt and Mark Diagrams for your 1994 Toyota Corolla. Plus additional Instructional and Directional Diagrams.

Let me know if this helped, or if you have additional information or questions. Feel Free to contact me at FixYa.com!

http://www.2carpros.com/car_repair_information/year/1994/make/toyota/model/corolla/1994_toyota_corolla_timing_belt_diagram_marks.htm

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