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04 free star soft pedal has new master cylinder pads and rotors

Cant blees the brakes has all new parts

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The master cyl must be filled and bled before install.after installing new bled master cyl,bleed all calipers.once you are sure there is no air left in system then you will need a scan tool to perform a abs service bleed.if you do perform the abs service bleed with a scan tool the brake pedal will be soft and start to fade.

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