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Anonymous Posted on May 09, 2017

Serpentine noise I just replaced the idler pulley and new serpentine belt on wife’s 96 Grand Voyager. Idler was making a lot of noise (98K on the car). I did this following the instructions below. Now have a louder shrill that coincides with the RPM’s. It sounds if coming from the air condition compressor which has not worked in 3-4 years. Anyway I thought this would be a freewheeling pulley, any ideas? I checked the belt and it looks straight. If I spray WD 40 on the pulley (compressor) it quiets down however this last for a very short duration.

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The clutch and bearing assembly is failing it is a freewheeling pulley till clutch is engaged but it has bearings which can fail

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Check your belt tensioner pulley to make sure the noise is not coming from there. Noise can travel. You can purchase a serpentine belt that eliminates the AC compressor. Check the tensioner pulley, if the pulley is okay try a shorter serpentine belt that eliminates the AC compressor.

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  • Posted on Feb 28, 2011

SOURCE: 96 plymouth voyager. PO113 code

First, if you have access to a scan tool, is there an IAT reading? If the IAT reading is logical then the problem is likely intermittent. If the reading is less than -30 degrees, unplug the connector. Install a jumper wire between the harness connector signal and ground circuits. The IAT temperature reading on the scan tool should be maxed out at the high end. For example it should be 280 degrees Farenheit or higher. If it is, the wiring is okay, and it may have been the connection. If it isn't install the jumper wire between the IAT signal circuit and the chassis ground.

If now the IAT reading on the scan tool is maxed out then check for an open in the IAT ground circuit. If you get no reading at all on the scan tool, it's likely that the sensor signal is open or the 5 volt reference is missing. Check using a DVOM (digital volt ohm meter) for a 5 volt reference. If it's there, then unplug the connector at the PCM and check for continuity on the IAT signal circuit between the PCM connector and the IAT connector.goodluck

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Anonymous

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  • Posted on Jul 19, 2009

SOURCE: My Serpentine belt is squealing above idle

first thing you need to do is get a new belt that belt dressing just destroyed that belt that stuff is no good then get a new belt tensioner clean all the pullys with some brake clean then install the belt tensioner and belt if its still sqealing there maybe a pully making the noise to check that when you have the belt off spin them by hand and listen to them and feel for any play in the bearings

Anonymous

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  • Posted on Apr 16, 2010

SOURCE: sounds like belt squeal on 1994 Plymouth Voyager

this could be the result of a few things.a belt thats too tght or too lose.there could be a bearing in the altenator going bad causing some grabbing on the belt.ther also could be an air compressor clutch beginning to freeze up.I hope this helps,

Randy Ohler

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  • Posted on Aug 16, 2011

SOURCE: replaced alternator on 1993 Plymouth

The tensioner is the only thing that will make a clicking sound, caused by the spring in it. But this doesn't mean that it is bad. To check pullies , remove the belt and turn them. they should spin freely. Turn them slowly also, if you feel any roughness then they are worn out. Do this to everything the belt touches, Alternator, a/c , power steering. Also the pullies should not wobble.

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  • Posted on Dec 04, 2011

SOURCE: belt squealing on a 1998 plymouth grand voyager 3.3 liter motor

have u checked the dampner pulley,it may b coming apart. if it only squeaks with the a/c on then it's your a/c clutch pulley.

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Carefully check the condition of the belt, the tensioner, and the idler pulley. I had the same thing happen and once I knew where to look, I could see that my idler pulley bearings were bad (understatement...they were GONE!)

Your idler pulley and tensioner need to look even and straight and not leaning in or out. A sure sign of a problem is if one or the other leans in toward where the tension from the belt would be on it.

The best way to check is to buy, rent, or borrow a serpentine belt wrench to take the pressure off and then try and wiggle the tension and idler pulley. If you feel any play, replace as soon as possible. I dragged my feet and ten days after I heard the noise, my idler pulley flew apart right as I pulled into work.
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To replace the drive belt or serpentine belt on a Voyager check the engine size. For 2.4L engines, a serpentine belt runs the air conditioning compressor and alternator. For 3.0L models, the alternator and power steering share a belt with a separate belt for the AC. Dodge recommends checking the belts every 15,000 miles or 12 months for possible replacement. I have gone 3 yrs with one.. it will start squealing when you turn on the heater to defrost..

http://www.automd.com/46/how-to-replace-a-serpentine-belt/

Most replacement belts have a diagram on the package. However, the easiest way is to pay close attention to the belt you are taking off, and replace the new one the same way. The pulleys themselves are usually 'grooved' or 'smooth' which tells you whether the front or back of the belt is against it. The hardest part is figuring out how to release tension on the idler-pulley. If you can get the belt on and the idler/tension pulley (same thing) pulls the belt tight, chances are you got the belt right. If you don't know what I mean, then the mostest best way is to get a Clymer Manual and read up. Its really a simple thing to do yourself.

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Normally a serpentine belt will stay on tight untill it begins to strech out after it streches out to far the tention idler pulley cannot keep the belt tension tight any longer thus resulting in a belt either coming off or other things happening So what i would do is to first remove the serpentine belt and ensure that the tention idler pulley is working good make sure it does not just move freely than get a new belt and install now you should be ok
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I need to replace the idler pulley/tensioner and the belt

When this idler wears out it makes a growling noise that changes with engine RPM. A Bad Idler Pulley May Wobble & Wear Out Your Serpentine Belt Prematurely. Get Rid Of That Horrible Noise & Change.

Remove the serpentine belt by using a breakover bar, ratcher or serpentine belt removal tool with the correct size socket for the pulley mounting bolt. Rotate tensioner arm to release tension. Remove the bel. Using the proper size socket, remove the tensiones mounting bolt and remove tensioner.

Before installing the new tensioner, make sure the mounting surface for the tensiones is clean and free rust or other obstructions. Find the locator pin hole and rotate the replacement tensiones until the locator pin and the hole line uo. Insert the pin into the hole. Reinstall the mounting bilt and torque down to tight fit.

Rotate the tensioner arm to install the serpentine belt. Make sure the belt is correctly fitted to all pulley in the drive system. Start the engine to check for any problems. Extreme care should be taken when reinstalling the serpentine belt because some of the pulleys are located in remote positions ans it is very hard to see that belt is seated properly in all of the grooves. If the belt isn't seated properly, the belt can "ride out" of the grooves and the belt can be damaged.

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My Serpentine belt is squealing above idle

first thing you need to do is get a new belt that belt dressing just destroyed that belt that stuff is no good then get a new belt tensioner clean all the pullys with some brake clean then install the belt tensioner and belt if its still sqealing there maybe a pully making the noise to check that when you have the belt off spin them by hand and listen to them and feel for any play in the bearings
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1996 Grand AM 3.1L serpentine belt replacement

Try this procedure.
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To replace a worn belt, locate the idler or generator pulley.

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Loosen the hold-down fastener for the idler or generator pulley.

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Pry the idler or generator pulley inward to release the belt tension and remove the belt.

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Match the old belt up for size with the new replacement belt.

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Observe the belt routing diagram in the engine compartment.

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Install the new belt over each of the drive pulleys. Often the manufacturer recommends a sequence for feeding the belt around the pulleys.

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Art courtesy of Delmar - Thomson Learning.
Pry out the idler or generator pulley to put tension on the belt.
Pry out the idler or generator pulley to put tension on the belt.

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Install the belt squarely in the grooves of each pulley.

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Before adjusting belt tension, check for proper pulley alignment. This is especially critical with serpentine belts. Measure the belt deflection in its longest span. If a belt tension gauge is available, use it and compare the tension to specifications.
If a belt is too tight, wear to bearings for the water pump, alternator, and engine crankshaft can result.
Some late-model Chrysler engines require a torque reading to be taken when tension is applied to the generator drive belt. This is especially important on the longer, multiribbed V-belts.

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Pry the idler or generator pulley to adjust the belt to specifications.

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Tighten the idler or generator pulley fastener.

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Start the engine and check the belt for proper operation.

Any more questions please ask. Good luck.
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