I have a 97 Ford Probe GT 2.5L v6. The other day my car began to shake and got the check engine light. The codes were, P0505 the IAC, P0170 Fuel trim bank one, P0301 cylinder misfire number 1 and P1170 heated oxygen sensor bank one. At this time the car still drove fine. I decided to do a tune up and replace the wires and plugs. after doing so the car began to shut off every time the gas was touched. Now the car will not start at all but turns over just fine. Things that were checked. Timing, good right on mark. Spark, good all 6. Distributor and rotor, looks fine no cracks. Gas, spark plugs are wet with gas every time I check one. Relieved fuel pressure from the line and tried to start again and gas was pouring just fine. It looks like the car may be getting to much gas but not sure what to look at from here. Appreciate any input or suggestions.
SOURCE: 2001 Chevy Malibu, 89,000 miles, 3.1 engine, won't start
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Since the PCM uses info gatheres from the crank and cam sensors to calculate ignition - and there are no OBD codes - in all likelihood, the PCM itself is bad.
The Ignition Module, also transmits to the PCM.
It appears after all your testing - that the PCM is at fault.
It does not error report on itself (unfortunately).
The ignition timing is controlled by the Powertrain Control Module (PCM). No adjustment is necessary (distributorless ignition) or possible.
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The ignition timing is controlled by the Powertrain Control Module (PCM). No adjustment is necessary or possible.
The engines covered by this manual are equipped with distributorless ignitions, ignition timing is controlled by the Powertrain Control Module (PCM), as applicable. No adjustments are possible. If ignition timing is not within specification, there is a fault in the engine control system. Diagnose and repair the problem as necessary.
Ignition timing is the measurement, in degrees of crankshaft rotation, of the point at which the spark plugs fire in each of the cylinders. It is measured in degrees before or after Top Dead Center (TDC) of the compression stroke.
Ideally, the air/fuel mixture in the cylinder will be ignited by the spark plug just as the piston passes TDC of the compression stroke. If this happens, the piston will be at the beginning of the power stroke just as the compressed and ignited air/fuel mixture forces the piston down and turns the crankshaft. Because it takes a fraction of a second for the spark plug to ignite the mixture in the cylinder, the spark plug must fire a little before the piston reaches TDC. Otherwise, the mixture will not be completely ignited as the piston passes TDC and the full power of the explosion will not be used by the engine.
The timing measurement is given in degrees of crankshaft rotation before the piston reaches TDC (BTDC). If the setting for the ignition timing is 10 BTDC, each spark plug must fire 10 degrees before each piston reaches TDC. This only holds true, however, when the engine is at idle speed. The combustion process must be complete by 23° ATDC to maintain proper engine performance, fuel mileage, and low emissions.
As the engine speed increases, the pistons go faster. The spark plugs have to ignite the fuel even sooner if it is to be completely ignited when the piston reaches TDC. Spark timing changes are accomplished electronically by the engine and ignition control computers.
If the ignition is set too far advanced (BTDC), the ignition and expansion of the fuel in the cylinder will occur too soon and tend to force the piston down while it is still traveling up. This causes pre ignition or -knocking and pinging-. If the ignition spark is set too far retarded, or after TDC (ATDC), the piston will have already started on its way down when the fuel is ignited. The piston will be forced down for only a portion of its travel, resulting in poor engine performance and lack of power.
Timing marks or scales can be found on the rim of the crankshaft pulley and the timing cover. The marks on the pulley correspond to the position of the piston in the No. 1 cylinder. A stroboscopic (dynamic) timing light is hooked onto the No. 1 cylinder spark plug wire (2.2L engine only, on the 2.4L engines, special adapters are needed) . Every time the spark plug fires, the timing light flashes. By aiming the light at the timing marks while the engine is running, the exact position of the piston within the cylinder can be easily read (the flash of light makes the mark on the pulley appear to be standing still). Proper timing is indicated when the mark and scale are in specified alignment.
WARNING
When checking timing with the engine running, take care not to get the timing light wires tangled in the fan blades and/or drive belts.
The engines covered by this manual are equipped with distributorless ignitions, ignition timing is controlled by the Powertrain Control Module (PCM), as applicable. No adjustments are possible. If ignition timing is not within specification, there is a fault in the engine control system. Diagnose and repair the problem as necessary.
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SOURCE: change the iac on a dodge ram b3500 van and still have the p0505
the idle air control is on the back of the throttle body. it has a plug going to it and is held to the throttle body with 2 screws
SOURCE: I have a Mercedes s500
Hi!!
What all this codes have in common is that every single one of them can be caused by a vacuum leak, so carefully check for cracked, loose or disconnected vacuum hoses, wiring to the coils, fuel pressure regulator, fuel injectors, specially on cylinder 2.
NOTE:After cylinder cut-out system is turned off, the system monitors (through misfire detection) if all intake and exhaust valves are open again.
NOTE:Misfiring may be caused by many faults in the fuel injection system. Usually a misfiring fault is stored with faults pertaining to other components. An engine mechanical fault could also cause a misfire condition.
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SOURCE: hello i have a 2001
well the ecu try to control the idle but if there is a leak on the intake maniful after the trotlebady it can not control it check for vamum leak may be a hose the pcv valve hose on the intake
SOURCE: FORD F150 4.6 L Engine
Several thnigs to check there; review all informastion disponible to do it and solve this...
P0356 - Ignition Coil F Primary/Secondary Circuit Malfunction
The ignition signal from the Powertrain Control Module (PCM) or Electronic Control Module(ECM) is sent to and amplified by the power transistor. The power transistor turns ON and OFF the ignition coil primary circuit. This ON/OFF operation induces the proper high voltage in the coil secondary circuit.
Symptoms
- Engine Light ON (or Service Engine Soon Warning Light)
- Lack/Loss of Power
- The engine may be harder to start
- Engine hesitation
Possible Causes:
- Open or short in the ignition coil circuit
- Ignition coil circuit shorted to ground
- Ignition coil connector
- Damaged ignition coil
- Damaged PCM or ECM
Possible Solution:
- If damage, repair ignition coil circuit
- Replaced ignition coil
- Replaced PCM or ECM
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P0152 - O2 Sensor Circuit High Voltage (Bank 2 Sensor 1)
The heated oxygen sensor 1 is placed into the exhaust manifold. It
detects the amount of oxygen in the exhaust gas compared to the outside
air. The heated oxygen sensor 1 has a closed-end tube made of ceramic
zirconia. The zirconia generates voltage from approximately 1V in richer
conditions to 0V in leaner conditions. The heated oxygen sensor 1
signal is sent to the ECM. The ECM adjusts the injection pulse duration
to achieve the ideal air-fuel ratio. The ideal air-fuel ratio occurs
near the radical change from 1V to 0V.
Symptoms:
- Engine Light ON (or Service Engine Soon Warning Light)
- High Fuel Consumption
- Excessive Smoke from Exhaust
Possible Causes:
- Harness or connectors (The heated oxygen sensor 1 heater circuit is open or shorted.)
- Front Heater oxygen sensor heater (Bank 2) may be faulty
Possible Solution:
Replacing the O2 Sensor 1 usually takes care of the problem
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P0174 - Fuel Injection System Too Lean Bank 2
With the Air/Fuel Mixture Ratio Self-Learning Control, the actual
mixture ratio can be brought closely to the theoretical mixture ratio
based on the mixture ratio feedback signal from the heated oxygen
sensors 1. The ECM calculates the necessary compensation to correct the
offset between the actual and the theoretical ratios.
In case the amount of the compensation value is extremely large (The
actual mixture ratio is too lean.), the ECM judges the condition as the
fuel injection system malfunction and light up the MIL (2 trip detection
logic).
Symptoms:
- Engine Light ON (or Service Engine Soon Warning Light)
- Excessive Fuel Consumption
Possible Causes:
- Intake air leaks
- Front Heated oxygen sensor may be faulty
- Injectors may be faulty
- Exhaust gas leaks
- Incorrect fuel pressure
- Lack of fuel
- Mass air flow sensor may be faulty
- Incorrect PCV hose connection
Possible Solution:
Dirty air filter of faulty air flow sensor are common causes of the problem.
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P2197 - DODGE - Sys Too Rich at Hier Load Bank1
Means that the O2 sensors on each bank are seeing WAY
too much oxygen in the exhaust gas. In normal operation the signal from
the O2 sensors should swing back and forth between rich and lean.
Your sensors are locked on lean.
Those codes are the same as P0174 (and P0171). Sounds like you have a
vacuum leak somewhere. Most common place is the PCV elbow where it
connects to the throttle body adapter.
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