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How to change an inner tie rod end on a honda civic 1.5

Hi I just can not understand how to take out the inner tie rod ends on a honda civi 88. lso how do you know if they need to be replaced.
Also, i took off the driver side cv shaft and it does not want to go in. could someone advise please------

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You must remove or slide the inner tie rod boot outward on the rod and then thread the tie rod out of the steering rack. there is a section of the tie rod on the inside of the ball joint that has flat spots to get a open end wrench onto. to check your tie rods, simply jack the wheel off of the ground, grab the either side of the tire, and wiggle it towards and away from you. if you feel any play at all the tie rods must be replaced. also a god indication is when the front tires start to wear excessivly on the inside or outside edges.

as for the cv axle, it has a retainer ring on the end of the splined shaft. all thats reqired is to seat the splines in the transaxle (transmission) and the tap (shouldnt take too much) the outer end of the axle with a mallet or hammer. it will pop into place.

if you have any questions email me at [email protected]

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As a front end and alignment tech. first remove outer tie , remove jam nut , remove inner tie rod boot. now yuo will need a inner tie rod tool check you with a snap-on or matco tool dealer. good luck

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